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maZRari monebis mxardaWeraze dgas!~
_ me rom „qoci” viyo, auci-
leblad SegekamaTebodiT da
getyodiT, rom lari „ocnebas”
ar erCis. yovel SemTxvevaSi,
ekonomikis ministr, qalbaton
Turnavas rwmeniT, erovnuli
valuta iseTi myari, rogoric
axlaa, arasodes yofila.
_ simarTle giTxraT, qalbaton
Turnavas fiqrebze komentaris
gakeTeba Zalian Znelia.
_ ratom?
_ 2012 wels, roca „nacionaluri
moZraobis” Semwirveli
iyo, qalbatoni Turnava, albaT,
fiqrobda, rom „nacionaluri
moZraoba” gaimarjvebda. amitom
mis fiqrebze komentari Cemgan
cota uxerxulia. saerTod, mas
SeuZlia, bevri ram ifiqros,
magram realuri suraTi aseTia
_ ekonomika, praqtikulad,
Camoqceulia. adamianebi SimSilis
zRvarze arian da Tu
laris vardna ase gagrZelda, es
zRvari, rasakvirvelia, gadailaxeba.
amasTan, kidev Zalian bevri
saSinao Tu sagareo garemoeba
mniSvnelovan rols iTamaSebs,
rom „ocneba” xelisuflebaSi
veRar darCes da es
kanonzomieri iqneba!
_ ra amis pasuxia da, am
dReebSi, sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis
gendireqtorad bord-
ma „ocnebis” favoriti airCia.
xaTuna lagaziZe, romelic gendireqtorobis
erT-erTi kan-
didati iyo, am arCevnebs 31
oqtombris repeticiad miiC-
nevs. qalbatono lela, am azrs
Tqvenc iziarebT?
_ iluzia ar mqonia, rom sazogadoebrivi
mauwyeblis direqtoris
arCevnebi gansxvavebuli
iqneboda, anu xelisufleba,
winamorbedebis msgavsad, am
SesaZleblobas ar gauSvebda.
sxvaTa Soris, zviad gamsaxurdias
xelisuflebis rRveva swored
iqidan daiwyes, roca televizias
TanamSromlebisTvis
arasasurveli direqtori dauniSnes.
mokled, yvela xelisufleba
cdilobs, rom sazogadoebrivi
mauwyebeli, ase vTqvaT,
Tavis ubeSi hyavdes, magram roca
dasasruli modis, es televizia
romelime xelisuflebas
adgeba?
_ geTanxmebiT, rom ar adge-
ba, magram sxva ram gkiTxeT,
anu sazmaus gendireqtoris
arCevis scenars „ocneba” 31
oqtombersac xom ar gamoiy-
enebs?
_ „ocnebis” gayalbebul da
Zaladobriv arCevnebs legitimurad
aravin cnobs! sxvaTa
Soris, amaze „ocnebam” evropasa
Tu aSS-sgan uamravi gafrTxileba
miiRo.
_ ise, amerikeli kongresme-
nebi bolos dros maincdamainc
aRar aqtiuroben...
_ maT Zalian mniSvnelovani
gancxadeba gaakeTes.
_ kerZod?
_ qalbaton degnans yuradRebiT
mousmineTo. saerTod, aSSs
saqarTveloSi Zalian Zlieri
diplomati hyavs, romelic aq
`xelisuflebas iseTi masStaburi testireba, rogorsac axla atarebs, Tavis
droze rom Caetarebina, maSinac sxva maCveneblebi gveqneboda, magram, pirvel
etapze, xelisuflebam masobriv testirebaze uari imitom Tqva, rom imiji
Seeqmna, TiTqos pandemias Tavi kargad gaarTva. albaT, gaxsovs, qveynis
SigniTa Tu gareT rogori Sefasebebi keTdeboda, ai, batoni gaxaria
warmatebuli menejeri aRmoCndao~
mimdinare politikur procesebze
zust informacias araCveulebrivad
flobs. elCis gancxadebebi
imis srul safuZvels
maZlevs, vifiqro, rom Cveni partniori,
anu aSS, Zaladobriv
da gayalbebul arCevnebs ar
aRiarebs. sxvaTa Soris, inauguracia
konspiraciulad lukaSenkomac
Caatara, magram es imas
ar niSnavs, rom xelisuflebaSi
didi dRe aqvs, anu roca mmarTveli
inauguracias konspiraciulad
atarebs, es imas niSnavs,
rom is dasrulebulia!
_ principSi, asea... qalbatono
lela, weRan korona axsen-
eT, Tqveni azriT, „ocnebis”
sanaqebo krizismenejmenti sad
gaqra da ratom CamoiSala, anu
pandemiis marTvis sadaveebi
ratom gaeqca?
_ xelisuflebas iseTi mas-
N22 (324) 29.09-.05.10.2020 w.
Staburi testireba, rogorsac
axla atarebs, Tavis droze rom
Caetarebina, maSinac sxva maCveneblebi
gveqneboda, magram, pirvel
etapze, xelisuflebam masobriv
testirebaze uari imitom
Tqva, rom imiji Seeqmna,
TiTqos pandemias Tavi kargad
gaarTva. albaT, gaxsovs, qveynis
SigniTa Tu gareT rogori Sefasebebi
keTdeboda, ai, batoni
gaxaria warmatebuli menejeri
aRmoCndao. magram sayovelTao
Termoskriningze, anu sicxis masobriv
gazomvaze axlac meRimeba.
_ ratom?
_ TiTqos xalxs imis Sesa-
Zlebloba ar hqonda, rom sicxe
saxlSi gaezoma. erTi sityviT,
Tavidanve realur Sedegs masobrivi
testireba aCvenebda, magram,
albaT, gaxsovT, opozici-
`2012 wels, roca `nacionaluri moZraobis~
Semwirveli iyo, qalbatoni Turnava, albaT,
fiqrobda, rom `nacionaluri moZraoba~
gaimarjvebda. amitom mis fiqrebze komentari
Cemgan cota uxerxulia. saerTod, mas
SeuZlia, bevri ram ifiqros, magram realuri
suraTi aseTia - ekonomika, praqtikulad,
Camoqceulia. adamianebi SimSilis zRvarze
arian da Tu laris vardna ase gagrZelda, es
zRvari, rasakvirvelia, gadailaxeba~
is gancxadebas, sakmarisi testebi
ar ariso, ra Sefasebac mohva
_ am gancxadebis gamo opozicia
lamis jvars acves, magram
rogorc ki masobrivi testireba
daiwyo, inficirebulTa
raodenobamac geometriuli
progresiiT daiwyo zrda.
_ sxvaTa Soris, masobrivi
testireba, mgoni, aRar tarde-
ba.
_ diax da, rogor fiqrobT,
es swori menejmentia?
_ albaT, ara... erTi sityviT,
koronis SiSiT „ocneba” mosax-
leobaze zegavlenas veRar
moaxdens, ara?
_ rasakvirvelia, veRar
moaxdens... rogorc Cans, am viruss
adamianebi, xSir SemTxvevaSi,
albaT, ufro msubuqad
gadaitanen, magram jandacvis
sistemam amden SemTxvevas Tavi
rom ver gaarTvas, es ukve kolafsi
iqneba! testireba swored
amitom Sewyvites da iciT, es
ra aris? _ mxolod mosaxleobas
ki ara, sakuTar Tavsac
atyueben, magram mosaxleoba ar
tyuvdeba!
_ qalbatono lela, ra amis
pasuxia da, rogor fiqrobT,
„ocnebis” sasargeblod sapa-
triarqoc xom ar CaerTveba
winasaarCevno kampaniaSi? sxva-
Ta Soris, ramdenime dRis win
mmarTveli gundis partiul
RonisZiebas, romelic imereT-
Si gaimarTa, sasuliero pire-
bi daeswrnen...
_ CemTvis sruliad cxadia,
rom orive institucias _ xelisuflebasa
da eklesiis
mmarTvel struqturasac _ seriozuli
problemebi aqvs. amitom
isini erTmaneTTan TviTgadarCenis
instinqtma miiyvana,
Tumca piradad me, xelisuflebis
adgilas rom viyo, eklesiis
gadawyvetilebebTan dakavSirebiT
imedianad ar viqnebodi!
_ erTsac gkiTxavT, qalbatono
lela: lari ufasurdeba,
produqti Zvirdeba, krimi-
nali imatebs, anu yvelaferi es
imas niSnavs, rom warsulSi, e.
i., 90-ianebisken vbrundebiT?
_ situaciis ase daxasiaTeb-
is winaaRmdegi var!
_ es xom realobaa da
winaaRmdegi ratom xarT?
_ warsulSi veravin dabrundeba!
marTalia, yvelas saxlSi
saaTi erTsa da imave dros
aCvenebs, TiToeuli Cvengani,
ufro sworad, Cven da xelisufleba,
mainc sxvadasxva droSi
vcxovrobT.
_ anu?
_ mokled, 90-ian wlebSi ver
davbrundebiT! 2020 weli mosaxleobisTvis,
bevri mizezis gamo,
arcTu sasiamovnod mosagonari
iqneba, magram, Cemi varaudiT,
es weli imiT dasruldeba,
rom epidemia msofliosTvis aseTi
saSiSi aRar iqneba da amas-
Tan, bevr qveyanaSi mmarTveli
elita Seicvleba! erTxel vTqvi
da axlac gavimeoreb: koronas
adamianebis sikvdili ar unda,
korona elitebs erCis!
_ es rogor?
_ imis Tqma minda, rom elitaTa
cvlilebebi namdvilad
moxdeba da 2020 welic istoriaSi
swored amiT darCeba!
_ qalbatono lela, opti-
mizmi kargia, magram simarTle
giTxraT, ver vxvdebi, Tqveni
optimizmi ras efuZneba?
_ jer erTi, safuZveli ar
maqvs, pesimisturad viyo ganwyobili.
meorec, Cven warsulSi
ki ara, axla vcxovrobT. is vi-
Tareba, romelic axlaa, ar
mogvwons, magram dRevandeli
dRe xval ukve warsuli iqneba.
_ ki batono, magram sanam
dRevandeli dRe warsuli
gaxdeba, ra vqnaT, anu realo-
ba rogor SevcvaloT?
_ imisTvis, rom dRevandeli
dRe, romelic ar mogvwons da
gvinda, rom xval aRar iyos da
SevcvaloT, ukeTesi molodini
unda gvqondes! yovel dRes aq
da axla vqmniT. amitom dRes
Cveni gakeTebuli arCevani Cvensave
xvalindel dRes ganapirobebs!
_ geTanxmebiT, magram mSier
xalxs yvelafer amis gasagebad
nervebi aRar hyofnis, qalba-
tono lela...
_ zedmeti filosofia mSieri
xalxisTvis ki ara, saerTod aravisTvis
araa saWiro! adamianebi
gadawyvetilebas imis mixedviT ki
ar iReben, ra ician, aramed imis
mixedviT, rasac dRes grZnoben!
imaze, rasac dRes xalxi grZnobs,
warmodgena gvaqvs. amitomac 31
oqtombris Semdeg cvlilebebi
aucilebad iqneba!
_ vnaxoT... cvlilebebis saw-
inaaRmdego,
bunebrivia,
araferi maqvs.
_ erT rameSi dameTanxmeT.
_ raSi?
_ cvlileba yvelas unda, magram
ambobs, is da es ar momwonso.
amis miuxedavad, faqtia:
raki yvelani vTanxmdebiT, rom
cvlileba aucilebelia, es cvlileba
namdvilad moxdeba!
_ politikurma RmerTebma
inebon, rom cvlilebebi mar-
Tlac moxdes! warmatebas gi-
survebT, qalbatono lela!
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