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PIA ARKE: Nature Morte alias Perlustrationer 1‐10, 1994<br />
guilt and shame of this history. And I guess I would like to<br />
ask, in response to Irit’s point on Danish brand and identity<br />
- what does this shame and guilt consist of?<br />
Irit Rogoff (IR): What I was trying to think about is maybe<br />
slightly different. It has to do with part of the nation, which<br />
means consciousness of one’s self and it often has to do<br />
with precisely setting limits and then the intensification of<br />
what happens within it. I was thinking, while looking at the<br />
photograph, that it looks too much like the Wild West. It<br />
borders <strong>Den</strong>mark, but it is so many many miles away. The<br />
frontiers that limit the horizon to one’s nation, and the fact<br />
that it is connected to adventure and exploration, also represents<br />
a kind of a liberation of the stuffiness of an overcoded<br />
and over-restricted bourgeois life, which is what the<br />
Wild West is. So it seems to me that t<strong>her</strong>e is a whole set<br />
of relations that one needs to think about in terms of how<br />
it is constituted <strong>her</strong>e. I was also thinking about the fact<br />
that every year we have quite a number of students from<br />
<strong>Den</strong>mark at Goldsmiths College in one of our programmes,<br />
and they have a very strong investment in cosiness - something<br />
we find very difficult to understand and engage with<br />
critically. So if the frontier is that far away, how does that<br />
constitute the whole nation in terms of cosiness, domesticity,<br />
interiority and so on? It seems to me in the mutuality of<br />
those relations, geographically in terms of consciousness,<br />
that t<strong>her</strong>e is an enormous amount to think about.<br />
MJ: I would like to ask Carsten about his talk on artistic research.<br />
Is it something you connect with in the artist’s work<br />
in particular? Does it spring from that?<br />
Carsten Juhl (CJ): Yes, to a certain degree. I had wondered<br />
about it when I wrote a book on global aesthetics and world<br />
feelings. When doing that, I thought t<strong>her</strong>e was some kind of<br />
dialogue going on, also because we had some major prob-<br />
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