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14 every time they have used business response. Com. Ibrahim Lethome Be specific because we want to know what the problems is that requires that should address by tightening security. Mr. Mwangi: okay the government should make sure that in every part of a location. There is enough man power to guard the citizens, Com. Ibrahim Lethome I don’t think you are to the question. Sure what is that you are recommending tight security. They must be a problem found here. What is the problem Mr. Mwangi: The problem is the one which I have initially highlighted. That there are thugs for those who are coming for the (inaudible) the disability of the people. the people themselves not being secure at their homes because of the attacks by the people who are from else where. Com. Ibrahim Lethome (inaudible) let me just give you an example. When we were in Marakwet the programme are (inaudible) who brought this problem. Mr. Mwangi: Thank you I don’t like the way you are putting it. Interjection: (inaudible) Mr. Mwangi: I am saying you to ethnic the tracks that have been mixed around. They themselves. some being pastrolists, others being farmers. Therefore the attack by this ethnics to different communities. Speaker: wewe unajua hujajibu swali. Unaulizwa. Kwa mfano hapa sasa mahali tuko. Insecurity inatokana na watu gani Wacha kuogopa uniambie……. Mr. Mwangi: Insecurity inatokana na Samburu, Kalenjins. Com. Ibrahim Lethome na unapendekeza sasa nini Mr. Mwangi: Napendekeza ya kwamba. That we be protected every individuals home by security from the government because it is our government and such homes are guarded.
15 Com. Ibrahim Lethome Thank you you have talked about independent treaties. Which ones are you talking about. Mr. Mwangi: That the independence treaties that they are to make people. Com. Ibrahim Lethome The treaties. Mr. Mwangi: That they should be from the grass roots be maintained. Com. Ibrahim Lethome You are starting the issues again. You are behaving like a lawyer. The question is you said that the independence agreements should be abolished because they would encourage ethnic boundaries to be treated. And we asked you very simply. Which are these independent agreements Tell us which ones One very specific ones. The Maasai agreement Mr. Mwangi: No I am talking about the ethnic treaties that were there intial in the (inaudible) the Kikuyu heads, the kalenjins head, the Maasais head, the Samburus head, this are the basic independence treaties that I am referring to. Com. Ibrahim Lethome Okay Mr. mwangi. Thank you very much. Please register your memorandum. We have. Is Ongarua now here. Ongarua Catholic Church. If they are not there, can I have Daniel Thumbi. Speaker: He is there. He is coming. Com. Ibrahim Lethome Ongarua are you coming Please give us your name. Joseph Samuel Waiganjo: Joseph Samuel Waiganjo. Com. Ibrahim Lethome And summarize your points. Joseph Samuel Waiganjo: Yah. Your honorable Commissioners. Our memorandums contain 18 points which are self explanatory but I would like to point out a few of them. First Kenyans are commited to the democratic values of constitutionalism, equality and the rule of law. On national philosophy and guiding principals we recommend that children, young people, the elderly, and other vulnerable groups should be protected. Also on the same point, we recommend that all power and authorities derived from the people have to be governed through their will and concern not otherwise. On democratic principles we recommend that all power and authorities derived from the people of kenya. And the people have to be governed through their will and the social cultural and development rights.
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89 na hiyo itegemee mapenzi yawanan
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93 Mr. Mayaka: Ningependekekza hii
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