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pombe inaitwa changaa kuna inaitwa busaa. Bwana mwenyekiti pombe ni pombe. Bwana mwenyekiti nikumangalia hapa hata<br />

mimi sioni kama mna matumbo ile inatolewa na wengine. Mimi naona ninyi ni watu wa kawaida. Labda nyinyi mmetolewa<br />

katikati baba zenu na mama zenu ni wa changaa. Wamewasomesha na hiyo kitu kinadharuliwa na matajiri. Mimi napendekeza<br />

ya kwamba katika Kenya hii kwa sababu watoto wetu tumesomesha na changaa na busaa pombe yoyote isiwe na madaraka<br />

ipigwe marufuku. Na hilo ndilo la mwisho bwana mwenyekiti.<br />

Com. Ibrahim Lethome Okoth Ogendo : Asante sana Bwan Thomas Mzee. Isaac Gakuru x2 Isaac summarize very quickly.<br />

Isaac Gakuru: I am Isaac Gakuru. Yangu ni machache tu. I am talking about security. Hii ninaopoongea kuhusu<br />

security,nafikiri wananchi wetu hapa laikipia wananielewa. Because this is a matter <strong>of</strong> explosive and seriousness in our area, and<br />

Laikipia as a whole. We pay for the police post and yet we receivenothingfrom them. We are taking an example in a place<br />

called Rimuruti. Where recently we had robbery with violence onour roads. Police were able to trace the robbers and if they<br />

never caught them. We wonder why we are paying the police post. Because if they do a plenty <strong>of</strong> <strong>of</strong>fences they are subjected<br />

to firm charges. Yani kama hawa watu watafundishwa good sheria. Mtu akiimba kitu ya mwenyewe anapatiwa charges ile<br />

inastahili.<br />

Nataka kuongea khuhusu poverty. We talk <strong>of</strong> poverty, we talk <strong>of</strong> education. We have bright students from families, heading no<br />

where. While we have the so called bursary. It goes to the wrong hands. Those who are not in need eg, correct individual are<br />

the ones who are getting. I am suggesting that those who are in need <strong>of</strong> busary, be traced from their primary levels. In order to<br />

know a child from a poorr family who is blind and when the time is right for him. E.g he has passed the KCPE test. Those who<br />

are in the authority know who is who toget the bursary and who is who is not to get. Not those in authority automatically the<br />

one decide who is who.<br />

Speaker: Just go to the next point I get what you are saying.<br />

Mr. Gakuru: In gender equality, many women are now talking <strong>of</strong> gender equality. You show the number <strong>of</strong> women who have<br />

attended here. I will show real woman, who dot know what they mean about gender equality. Much money should be spent I<br />

writing in this subject. It should go to the poverty allievation because tht is where majority <strong>of</strong> women are. poor women to lead<br />

thegroup. This money gender equality issue should go to the women group.<br />

Com. Ibrahim Lethome Please goto your last point.<br />

Where as we have 12 nominated members <strong>of</strong> parliament. We have that ratio as being 1:3. I recommend that nomination in<br />

local authorities should ber one nominated to five elected councillors and nominations should be awarded to women. Even in

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