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DOWNTOWN OTTAWA TRANSIT TUNNEL TO3041/TO3049 AGENCY CONSULTATION GROUP MEETING NOTES Page 3 of 8 DOWNTOWN OTTAWA TRANSIT TUNNEL TO3041/TO3049 AGENCY CONSULTATION GROUP MEETING NOTES Page 4 of 8 Task No. Description Discussion / Status Question/ Comment Klaus Beltzner David Hopper Task No. Description Discussion / Status Question/ Comment Sandra Candow David Hopper David Jeanes Question: Does the TBM need to be turned around at the Campus Station? Response: There will be a removal shaft for the TBM here. The TBM will be removed and taken back to LeBreton to start 2 nd run, or, if there are 2 TBMs they will be removed and taken away from this site. Question: Given the existing road network in area, and proximity of buildings, it looks like a tight site. Is that not a challenge? Response: Yes, it is a challenging site. The construction technique and mitigation will address impacts. Construction disruption will be relatively short-term Question: Is it possible that the exit shaft for the TBM could be further south at Mann Avenue? Response: Yes, that is possible and will be considered further during preliminary design. We are looking at the worst case impact for the EA study. Question: Will you be contacting Hydro One regarding access, impacts to our facilities? Response: Yes, you will be circulated prior to construction, and as part of the approvals process for the project. Public Open House #4 The next Public Open House will be on 23 February 2010, from 5:00 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. There will be no presentation component to this event. The focus of this Open House is on the provincial EA process and requirements. Question: Will there be a presentation given? Comment: A small notation indicating federal approvals process is required. We can work together for wording. Response: Agreed, we can accommodate. Response: No, just display boards for this Open House. Project team members will be available to answer questions and discuss the project. Process Moving Forward Key dates: Public Open House – 23 February 2010 Draft Environmental Project Report available – March 2010 Notice of Completion (initiates 30-day public review) – April 2010 Question: When will the Open House panels be completed? Response: Text has been completed and we are working on graphics. Comment: From NCC perspective, station locations and federal impacts suggest a preview of the material. Response: Yes, we will try for that. We can also note federal interest on relevant display boards. Klaus Beltzner David Hopper David Jeanes David Hopper Florence Robinson David Hopper David Hopper David Jeanes David Hopper David Hopper Sandra Candow David Hopper Sandra Candow David Hopper Question: To what extent is DOTT study coordinated with Interprovincial Transit Strategy? There are issues that require attention, e.g. branching off from Rideau. To what extent does the tunnel design accommodate this? There is also the potential for running trains on multiple routes. The expert panel indicated an incompatibility of running shorter trains with lower ridership along the same line as longer trains with higher ridership. Response: There has been a fair amount of work done on this. At Bayview, the design can accommodate multiple options for interprovincial service. The tunnel design near Rideau can accommodate an underground junction but this is somewhat tricky and will need more work in the preliminary engineering phase. We are generally aware of the interprovincial study, its timing, and general recommendations. That study has fallen behind schedule somewhat and we had hoped for more input. Question: The previous (N-S LRT) project, required significant federal involvement regarding operating regulations. The CTA has since been amended to allow delegation, has a submission been made by City? Response: There have been discussions between the City, Transport Canada and the CTA. The City is leaning towards a provincially regulated municipal railway but needs to look at impacts on existing operations. Question: Has a formal letter been issued to the Minister? Response: No, City is still working through implications of being a municipal railway before asking for exemption. Question: With the exception of the TTC, no in-province inspection capacity exists. The province typically contracts this back to the federal government. In Montreal, the AMT is trying to become federal railway to get greater powers and reduce costs for regulation. Capital railway does operate interprovincially, and future inter-provincial routes suggest it may be better to stay with federal regulation. Response: The current regulatory framework is designed for heavy rail, not LRT. The N-S line required many new regulations and exemptions to implement. Response: Automation is also further removed from CTA regulatory ability. David Hopper Luc Masse David Hopper Luc Masse David Hopper David Jeanes Luc Masse David Hopper
DOWNTOWN OTTAWA TRANSIT TUNNEL TO3041/TO3049 AGENCY CONSULTATION GROUP MEETING NOTES Page 5 of 8 DOWNTOWN OTTAWA TRANSIT TUNNEL TO3041/TO3049 AGENCY CONSULTATION GROUP MEETING NOTES Page 6 of 8 Task No. Description Discussion / Status Question/ Comment David Jeanes Task No. Description Discussion / Status Question/ Comment Phil Pawliuk Comment: In 1998 when O-Train went through process, we thought we were moving towards a more European system to address shortcomings in existing North American safety regimes. Would be leery of walking away when these benefits may still be realized. Response: The USA has FTA, which is geared to transit regulation. Nothing similar exists in Canada. Question: Will the presentation and display boards be available on website? Response: The presentation will be online later this week, and the POH boards will be available after POH. We will send notice. Question: Has the budget been updated? Response: No, the current budget won’t change until end of preliminary engineering. Question: What does the value engineering exercise look at? Response: It is a process that looks at the complete design. Typically look at most expensive elements first and work way down, looking for opportunities to improve the design, minimize impacts, improve constructability or modify the design to achieve the same functionality with a different solution. Question: Will the depth of the tunnel be looked at? Response: The City is undertaking a geotechnical study and results will be used in preliminary design phase to determine if depth of tunnel can be decreased. Question: Will you also look at shifting stations to save money? Response: Yes, but that will be part of preliminary engineering, not value engineering. Comment: It is also related to development opportunities downtown. Question: Will transit priority measures on 417 which may need EA approval be shown or left for next phase? Response: Some will need to be in EA report, but we were not intending to show detail at POH without showing physical options. Report will need to show concepts in more detail. Comment: Later on, you will need to show where approvals have been received for specific infrastructure. Response: Yes will need to work towards that, it is primarily an issue for the Rail Implementation Office. Luc Masse Ian Donnelly David Hopper Ian Donnelly David Hopper Klaus Beltzner David Hopper Klaus Beltzner David Hopper Klaus Beltzner David Hopper Ian Donnelly Phil Pawliuk David Hopper Comment: MTO is moving into detailed design for widening of the Queensway in the summer/fall of 2010. We need to know whether any transit priority measures will be part of design. Question: Do you have a date for release of scope of work for this assignment? Response: March of 2010 Question: Will MTO need to make changes to their EA? Response: No, they would be covered in DOTT EA. Comment: At the last CG meeting we saw plans for stations, but something new shown in the design report was the alignment between stations. One of benefits identified for the project is speed and there were questions raised at Council on speed of service. I have questions about the impacts of reverse curves at several locations on speed and also the lack of bypass tracks at stations for express service. Buses operate at speeds of 90-100 km/h, but proposed curves will eliminate the opportunity for superelevation and reduce speed for LRT compared to current service. Response: All curves can accommodate superelevation, including the reverse curves. At Train and Campus existing sharp curves will be removed. Another sharp curve at the Mackenzie-King bridge will also be removed, as well as 14 signalized intersections downtown. While vehicle speed may be lower at certain locations, the end to end speed of the whole system will be better than at present. Question: Can you provide details on speeds for future segments, for example in the Greenbelt? The N-S LRT project had a maximum design speed of 80 km/h, resulting in slower journey times. Response: Can’t predict exactly as the actual vehicle make is unknown. We can provide some general info but nothing definitive at this point. Question: Edmonton LRT design guidelines use a design speed of 80 km/h. Will this be greater? Dennis Gratton Phil Pawliuk Mona Abouhenidy David Hopper David Jeanes David Hopper David Jeanes David Hopper Klaus Beltzner Phil Pawliuk David Hopper
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