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jews and jewish education in germany today - The Westbury Group

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Open<strong>in</strong>g to different movements. That’s the greatest challenge. Orthodox, Liberal, Conservative, Progressive,<br />

that they can exist on equal foot<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> Germany. That’s the greatest challenge.<br />

● And that’s now not the case, I mean structurally speak<strong>in</strong>g?<br />

Not at all. It’s been fought actively. <strong>The</strong> Central Council doesn’t look good here. It’s so sad because it also<br />

frightens away many Jews.<br />

● <strong>The</strong> conflicts themselves?<br />

Yes.<br />

● But Jewish pluralism <strong>in</strong> Germany has a future?<br />

Yes, I could imag<strong>in</strong>e. Leav<strong>in</strong>g aside the possibility that th<strong>in</strong>gs could take a turn for the worse <strong>in</strong> this country<br />

under times of very bad political <strong>and</strong> social turmoil, I th<strong>in</strong>k there is even a chance that Liberal Judaism could<br />

become much stronger than Orthodox here. That the tide could change. <strong>The</strong>re are a lot of th<strong>in</strong>gs support<strong>in</strong>g<br />

this idea. That’s also why I th<strong>in</strong>k the resistance <strong>in</strong> the Central Council is so strong, because it can’t be<br />

repressed. <strong>The</strong>y’re try<strong>in</strong>g everyth<strong>in</strong>g, but I th<strong>in</strong>k this is the way of the future.<br />

● Do you th<strong>in</strong>k that the connection or the sense of identify<strong>in</strong>g with Israel will rema<strong>in</strong> as strong over the next<br />

20 years as it has been dur<strong>in</strong>g the last decades?<br />

Yes, I th<strong>in</strong>k so. Absolutely.<br />

● Do you th<strong>in</strong>k that the Russian speak<strong>in</strong>g immigrant members still have urgent issues that rema<strong>in</strong><br />

unresolved?<br />

Yes, but these urgent problems are connected to the status of the Jews from the former Soviet Union <strong>in</strong> this<br />

country. And there’s a clear discrim<strong>in</strong>ation aga<strong>in</strong>st the Jewish immigrants compared to the ethnic Germans<br />

who came from the former Soviet Union at the same time. <strong>The</strong> ethnic Germans were at some po<strong>in</strong>t<br />

considered German <strong>and</strong> have a completely different f<strong>in</strong>ancial background from the Jewish immigrants. <strong>The</strong>y<br />

receive a government stipend to cover their basic needs. <strong>The</strong> ethnic Germans receive pensions that are<br />

calculated as if they had always worked <strong>in</strong> Germany. For me that’s a huge <strong>in</strong>justice. <strong>The</strong> Jewish immigrants<br />

aren’t considered German, but the ethnic repatriates are. I don’t know how many generations they’ve been<br />

liv<strong>in</strong>g there [<strong>in</strong> the FSU], <strong>and</strong> they are considered German. I th<strong>in</strong>k this is one of the ma<strong>in</strong> reasons for the<br />

glar<strong>in</strong>g racism <strong>in</strong> Germany. This affects the Jewish immigrants, they receive welfare <strong>and</strong> pensions, but these<br />

are basically restitution payments. Because they were persecuted as children by the Nazis, this is calculated<br />

as part of their welfare payments.<br />

● You speak about the elderly among the Russian Jewish immigrants?<br />

Yes. If they receive a Russian victim restitution payment, they also pay that, like here <strong>in</strong> Germany, there’s a<br />

law here for that as well. In Germany this money cannot be counted as part of other <strong>in</strong>come sources, but the<br />

Russian payments are counted. This leads to massive problems for the older Russian immigrants, because<br />

they are already liv<strong>in</strong>g at the poverty l<strong>in</strong>e <strong>and</strong> haven’t declared these payments <strong>and</strong> should now repay them.<br />

● So it’s be<strong>in</strong>g taken out of their welfare here?<br />

Yes.<br />

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