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jews and jewish education in germany today - The Westbury Group

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● Look<strong>in</strong>g at the <strong>education</strong>al programs offered <strong>in</strong> the Jewish Communities <strong>today</strong>, what programs are still<br />

miss<strong>in</strong>g?<br />

Conversion courses. <strong>The</strong>y may be <strong>in</strong> Russian, for Russian-speak<strong>in</strong>g people. I th<strong>in</strong>k what is also miss<strong>in</strong>g is a<br />

targeted effort of communicat<strong>in</strong>g religious values <strong>and</strong> religious content <strong>in</strong> a way that Russians underst<strong>and</strong>,<br />

which is on an <strong>in</strong>tellectually higher level. Also I th<strong>in</strong>k what is lack<strong>in</strong>g is an <strong>in</strong>tergenerational approach, so, for<br />

example, gr<strong>and</strong>parents <strong>and</strong> gr<strong>and</strong>children, someth<strong>in</strong>g like that which br<strong>in</strong>gs two generations together, which<br />

acknowledges the biographies of the older, but frames it with<strong>in</strong> the new narratives of the younger. Someth<strong>in</strong>g<br />

like that. I th<strong>in</strong>k this would be an <strong>in</strong>terest<strong>in</strong>g approach. Also because due to the immigration <strong>and</strong> the<br />

<strong>in</strong>tegration process, these generations live <strong>in</strong> different worlds. You have <strong>in</strong> one family two different worlds;<br />

the younger world <strong>and</strong> the older world. And the Community could be the bridge between these two worlds,<br />

br<strong>in</strong>g<strong>in</strong>g them together <strong>and</strong> say<strong>in</strong>g your Jewish identity is someth<strong>in</strong>g which l<strong>in</strong>ks you together.<br />

● Do you th<strong>in</strong>k that the synagogues <strong>in</strong> Germany will rema<strong>in</strong> the core of organized Jewish life <strong>in</strong> the long run?<br />

Or can other <strong>education</strong>al or cultural <strong>in</strong>stitutions play an almost equal role, <strong>and</strong> be able to attract the<br />

thous<strong>and</strong>s of secular Jews who don’t attend a synagogue?<br />

I do th<strong>in</strong>k that the core is religion <strong>and</strong> it should be so, because it ensures the cont<strong>in</strong>uity. I th<strong>in</strong>k what we need<br />

is hav<strong>in</strong>g the nucleus be<strong>in</strong>g religion <strong>and</strong> hav<strong>in</strong>g a whole Community center around it with opportunities for<br />

people who do not identify with religion that much to feel part of the Community, of the broader Community.<br />

I wouldn’t know how to convey to people their identity without referr<strong>in</strong>g to religion. What I th<strong>in</strong>k we should<br />

stop do<strong>in</strong>g is expect<strong>in</strong>g that people actively see themselves as religious people. We should offer them an<br />

opportunity to participate <strong>in</strong> religious life without a profession of faith.<br />

● Do you th<strong>in</strong>k the Communities could offer more to the elderly?<br />

Aga<strong>in</strong>, I th<strong>in</strong>k a great th<strong>in</strong>g would be br<strong>in</strong>g them together with younger people, br<strong>in</strong>g<strong>in</strong>g younger people to<br />

talk to them about religion, for example. I th<strong>in</strong>k that they’re liv<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> a bubble <strong>and</strong> it’s sad. I don’t blame<br />

them, it’s not their fault. I th<strong>in</strong>k we should be try<strong>in</strong>g very softly <strong>and</strong> k<strong>in</strong>dly to f<strong>in</strong>d ways for them to<br />

communicate with the world based on th<strong>in</strong>gs other than their past. Acknowledg<strong>in</strong>g their past, but br<strong>in</strong>g<strong>in</strong>g<br />

them back to the real world. I th<strong>in</strong>k this would be nice. Maybe it’s too abstract. But someth<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> that<br />

direction.<br />

● Should there be some k<strong>in</strong>d of political support from the Community <strong>in</strong> order to improve the social situation<br />

of the elderly immigrants <strong>in</strong> Germany?<br />

Well, I’m lobby<strong>in</strong>g for this.<br />

● What is your experience <strong>in</strong> work<strong>in</strong>g with non-Jewish German officials <strong>and</strong> politicians?<br />

<strong>The</strong> irritations are always there on both sides, but it’s always like that, not only with Jews, with anyone. I<br />

th<strong>in</strong>k that the political capital is scarce, but my impression is that the official Jewish structures are very<br />

generous with wast<strong>in</strong>g it. And at some po<strong>in</strong>t the political structures just aren’t perceptive any more to<br />

arguments that come from Jewish Communities.<br />

● Is there a lack of political sensitivity?<br />

This is exactly what I mean, <strong>and</strong> this also happens on the Jewish side. You have to be selective about when<br />

you do PR. You have to be selective about wast<strong>in</strong>g attention, public attention, political attention. If you want<br />

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