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jews and jewish education in germany today - The Westbury Group

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didn’t want it. We didn’t get the 2/3 majority <strong>in</strong> the representative assembly. <strong>The</strong> majority wanted it, but we<br />

needed the 2/3. I th<strong>in</strong>k this was only the first attempt, we will try it aga<strong>in</strong>. But you see, this is a blatant<br />

example of discrim<strong>in</strong>ation. As for membership, there are no real chances to <strong>in</strong>stitute the associated<br />

membership right now, I don’t see much openness towards this idea.<br />

● From many places we’ve been told that it’s very hard to get young FSU immigrants committed to<br />

cont<strong>in</strong>u<strong>in</strong>g Jewish Community <strong>in</strong>volvement. You have worked for several Jewish <strong>in</strong>stitutions <strong>in</strong> Germany. Do<br />

you agree with this assessment?<br />

Yes. I see the problem, I underst<strong>and</strong> the problem. I th<strong>in</strong>k the problem is not the people, but the ways to recruit<br />

them <strong>and</strong> to work with them. <strong>The</strong> problem is the overall image of the Community. And the overall image is<br />

not sexy. Why should they come <strong>and</strong> commit? I mean, they live here, they’re well <strong>in</strong>tegrated <strong>in</strong>to German<br />

society; basically we’re los<strong>in</strong>g these families. <strong>The</strong>y have to pay extra taxes if they jo<strong>in</strong> the Community; this is<br />

one of the big problems for them.<br />

● So you would say this is a natural trend, also occurr<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> France <strong>and</strong> Great Brita<strong>in</strong>? It’s not a specific<br />

German problem?<br />

No, I th<strong>in</strong>k it’s a specific German problem. I don’t know the situation <strong>in</strong> France or <strong>in</strong> Great Brita<strong>in</strong>. But I<br />

know that here the Community is very bureaucratic, <strong>and</strong> which <strong>in</strong> many cases does not have the means or the<br />

fantasy to work with them. It’s a very closed Community. For example, if there are younger fathers who are<br />

<strong>in</strong> an <strong>in</strong>termarriage, they’re automatically excluded. Why should a young father be a member of this<br />

Community <strong>and</strong> pay the extra taxes for it if his children are not accepted as full-fledged members of the<br />

Community? So it all hangs together. Also there are no ways of look<strong>in</strong>g at the American experience. How<br />

can we br<strong>in</strong>g programs from the United States to Germany? This is what we are try<strong>in</strong>g to do with Gesa<br />

Edelberg [Conservative female Rabbi <strong>in</strong> Berl<strong>in</strong>, O.G.] here, who is very open to American ways of<br />

recruitment <strong>and</strong> we’re hop<strong>in</strong>g that we can use some of her techniques.<br />

● Some voices are talk<strong>in</strong>g about a new pluralism of Jewish life <strong>in</strong> Germany. Do you share this view? And if<br />

so, what are the most essential components of this new German-Jewish pluralism? And is it viable for the<br />

long term, or just a temporary trend?<br />

I’m a proponent of plurality. I th<strong>in</strong>k it depends on what you underst<strong>and</strong> under Community. I say that we<br />

should open up the Community <strong>and</strong> make it a true “community”. For me, the Community numbers are not the<br />

numbers of the people who are on the record <strong>and</strong> who pay taxes, but for me the numbers are of the people<br />

who actually participate <strong>and</strong> who feel engaged <strong>and</strong> are <strong>in</strong>terested <strong>in</strong> this belong<strong>in</strong>g to someth<strong>in</strong>g, to this<br />

group, to this Community of Jews. In that sense I don’t care what means you take, as long as it’s not<br />

missionary <strong>and</strong> <strong>in</strong>tolerant to other groups. It’s f<strong>in</strong>e. I don’t like all these fights <strong>and</strong> struggles between different<br />

Jewish organizations.<br />

● How would you describe the current relations between religious <strong>and</strong> non-religious Jews <strong>in</strong> Germany? Are<br />

there problems, or is there an acceptance of one another?<br />

I mean <strong>in</strong> cities like Berl<strong>in</strong> the secular-religious relations are not a problem. It’s actually quite normal. But <strong>in</strong><br />

cities like Kassel, where I come from <strong>and</strong> where my brother is now, I th<strong>in</strong>k that there isn’t a broad acceptance<br />

<strong>in</strong> the Community. I mean the Rabbi there is the one who’s orthodox <strong>and</strong> there are a couple of people who are<br />

orthodox, but otherwise everyone is Russian. And I th<strong>in</strong>k it doesn’t matter what means you employ try<strong>in</strong>g to<br />

get them <strong>in</strong>terested. Many Russians have a problem with reform movements, they have a problem with<br />

female Rabbis, but these are questions of work<strong>in</strong>g with them <strong>and</strong> educat<strong>in</strong>g them <strong>and</strong> show<strong>in</strong>g them the<br />

plurality of their Jewish life.<br />

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