You Are Not Book.indb - Stephen H. Wolinsky Ph. D.

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Student: Well, for the concept it would be a grasping,
wanting to hang on to “my” consciousness and
all these concepts and find other people to gather
with you and have these same concepts and it
would be a whole world. A fascinating world of
explorations here.
Wolinsky: This concept called “my” consciousness that believes
all of these things even the concept called
fascinating and so on.
Student: It is exhausting even to think about it.
Wolinsky:. The concept called “my” consciousness, while
“you” are doing all that, what does the concept
called “my” consciousness resist experiencing?
Student: Ah, just letting go of it all and just be, just be.
Wolinsky: Why would the concept called “my” consciousness
resist the concept of letting go or holding
on and the concept of just being?
Student: Well, the resistance comes from wanting to think
of oneself as a self and having the consciousness
that there is something special to that, that you
have to hold onto that, the ego is just so eager
to feel like, I exist in time, space, and that I have
a consciousness, and if I don’t exist. It comes
down to “I don’t exist,” “I have to exist,” I have
to do everything possible to exist and even cling
to “my” consciousness.
Wolinsky: So just to recap, the concept called “my” consciousness
basically believes in the concept of
existence and non-existence, believes in the
concept of shifting consciousnesses, it believes in
the concept of maybe there was a consciousness
before all this, that life is good, death is bad, etc.