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You Are Not Book.indb - Stephen H. Wolinsky Ph. D.

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The Concept of the skandhas / 169<br />

<strong>Wolinsky</strong>: Okay, so the “awarer,” which now has two parts<br />

one is aware of it looking away, and the other part<br />

of the “awarer” wants to look at this incredibly<br />

bright light, if the “awarer” and the light, looking<br />

away part or looking at part all was made<br />

of the same consciousness, which had nothing<br />

to do with anything, then . . . ?<br />

Student: It was like the “awarer” had an impression that<br />

you know you shine a light in a deer’s eye or<br />

something, which would immobilize them. And<br />

when I could see that happening, you wouldn’t<br />

look at the light for fear of immobilization; but<br />

then when you get that it is the same substance,<br />

it just kind of trailed away.<br />

<strong>Wolinsky</strong>: And prior to the emergence of the I am, which<br />

believes in the concept of movement, the concept<br />

of life and death and the concept of you<br />

have to move, and the concept of survival, and<br />

the concept of an evolution, and the concept<br />

of change, the concept of location, the concept<br />

of from one space to another location—if all<br />

of those were made of the same consciousness<br />

as the “awarer,” which had nothing to do with<br />

anything, prior to the emergence of the “awarer,”<br />

that was aware of all of this, are you?<br />

Student: NOTHINGNESS_______(Silence).<br />

<strong>Wolinsky</strong>: Now if the concept called an “awarer” believed in<br />

the concept of movement from this location to<br />

another location, concept of evolution changed,<br />

changing into something else, a starting point, the<br />

concept of birth, life, death, concept of breathing<br />

and moving to survive the concept of breathing,<br />

being separated from lung and breath and so on<br />

and the concept of a light, a concept of freezing

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