You Are Not Book.indb - Stephen H. Wolinsky Ph. D.

The Concept of the skandhas / 175
Student: It can’t know that it is all false.
Wolinsky: How come the “awarer” can’t know it is all
false?
Student: If it knew it was all false, it would not have to
do any of that stuff.
Wolinsky: And if it didn’t move? If the “awarer” were
separate from a concept called movement, then
would the “awarer” be there?
Student: _______(Silence)_______(silence)_______
Wolinsky: If there was some “awarer” out there that believed
in the concept called movement, and believed in
the concept called birth and life and death and
movement and starting points and changing and
evolution, locations from one thing to another,
from what it sees and all that other stuff, if an
“awarer” were to believe all of that stuff, what
can the “awarer” not experience?
Student: It can’t experience big people, big people can
stop the movement. As long as you are bigger
than they are, or stronger, as long as the I am
is bigger or stronger, it can’t experience large
people.
Wolinsky: First off, the “awarer” has a discriminative ability
to discriminate small from big. So you have
the concept of small, the concept of big, the
concept of an “awarer,” and you also have the
concept called stopping movement. Let’s make
a separation here, if we have movement stopped
and if we have stopping and the “awarer,” if they
are fused together, then that equals death, I am
assuming, or something bad. So if we separate
the concept of an “awarer” from the concept