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Dr.RuftL I \^'ill Tnftahce in Con^antlm ihs Great ^-wh^^e
Mother Helena, was a Chriftian, and yet he was not baptiztd
till he was confiderably in Years.
Befides, I do not remember, that there is any account in
Hiftory, during the firft 5:00 Years, that any one of the Farfiers,
or eminent Bifliops of the Church, that were born of
Chriftian Parents, were ba| tized until they were about Twenty
or Thirty Years of Age. And if any of you know the
contrary, I defire you would fhew it.
Mr. Leigh. What do you tail us of the Fathers? We are
not bound to abide by their Teftimony.
Dr RujfeL This is the firft time I have ever met with this
Anfwer from you Paedobaptifts, to tell us you difown the Tetimony
of the Fathers in the point of Infant Baptifm. When
you think the Fathers are on yeur fide, then we cart hear
enough of them ; but now you fee they are againft you, you
will not abide by their TeHimony . You know T do nor a/ledge
it to prove the Inf^Irution, bur only Matter of Faft. But feeing
you will not abide by their TeOimony J
flial] leave it to be coaiidered
by the People ; For I am '.veil fatisfied there arc Ibnie
Honourable Perfons here, knuw what I lay to be true.
Mr. Williams doth then proceed to a Scripture Inftanct ; and
asks Mr. Leigh this ^cflton. Was not the Mother of our
Li3rd a Believer, when Chrift was born ?
Mr. Leigh answers, What do you a^k that Queftion^for ?
Every Body knows that.
Mr^ K iiiiams. Bur do you believ^e it ?
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Leigh Yes, I do believe it ; What then ?
Mr. miliatns. Then here is an Indance for you from Scripture,
cf the Child of a Believer, that was a Believer before ae
tsras born ;
and yet he was not baptized till he caaie to Years!
And this we can prove.
^ Upon this the Peoph fell a laughing at Mr, Leigh, and hii
Countenance changed pale ; and he was under fame feeming Confter^
nation of Mrnd, fe that he could nat prefcntly reco'ver himfetf{ hut
^t laji his Spirits rallied again^ and then he fpake to this EjfeB.
Mr Leigh Oar Difcourfe was grounded on the Commiflion
>^ow was this before rhe Commiffion , or after it ?
Dr Rtifel. It is a miftake Mr. Leigh, we were not now upon
he Commifllon, but upon your Qucftion. '
And I think
Vlr. mlliams hzih given, you a pertinent Anfwer, every way
uitable to your QueOion, and the Challenge you made us':
ind you are bound to take it. Upon this he made no Reply ;
lut addrrjfed hivifelf to us after this manner. Now if you pleafe
beqome Opponent. Our Jnfmr was, You may, ii you
hmkiit^. we arc contented. Fa Mr.