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yone can see. We thus brighten even gold opaquely.” Shethinks that the metal gleaning takes away the main beauty.She also says the following while emphasizing the importanceof color and harmony: “The amount of the goldyou will use should be limited as well as the amount of colorin order to reveal the main beauty. Excessive amountsof both is a minus”.Art: A Means to be A HumanWe ask Mrs. Derman weather she is a traditionalist or amodernist in this art. The master illuminator expresses thatwhile she is not very modernist, she is not very strictly traditionaleither. According to Mrs. Derman who states thata good illuminator should have a strong foundation, theilluminator must definitely receive education to learn thebasic rules of the art. Cicek Derman thinks that the contemporaryartist must create works that are suitable to theera he is in,which reflects his own artistic perception, bypreserving the basic rules of the art. Mrs. Derman says thefollowing while drawing attention to the vague line betweenthe modern and the classical: When you skip the rules,you skip the art itself. To ruin it by neglecting its rulesis not innovation. What is the matter is to be able to preservethe basic and adapt it to the day.”We also ask Mrs. Derman who emphasizes that a good illuminatorshould not satisfy herself with merely the knowledgeon the art of illumination how a good artist shouldbe like. Here is how she answers our question: “Firstly, agood artist should have the manners of his art. Our teeacherMr. Demironat would say “Art is the clearance of themoral values. An artist should clear his manners and moralvalues, purifying it from all the evil. Isn’t our aim alreadythis? Aren’t we trying to be human? Art is a very usefulmeans to be a human.”Emphasizing also that art may have traps, Mrs. Dermanstates that arrogance might occur if the artist considershimself superior and different than others. “I ask Allah tokeep me away from arrogance. I don’t like the word “cre-19