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Interjection- Com. Kabira: Sorry tiwe ndiroria, ni uria ura- translate-ti. Translator: Suruari ndefu ya trouser ya wanaume. Com. Kabira: Sorry ndana-explain. Ati ndiroria atiriri, urauga atumia matigacoke gwikira mibuto tundu niki? Stephen Ngari: Tundu riria muthuri ehaha aikarite hau riko-ini, na ciana no nginya igakorwo cii hau rikoini, miikarire yao ndikoraguo i miega. Translator: Wakati mzee wa nyumbani, ama baba ako katika nyumbani, wale watoto kama wamevaa zile nguo, zinatoa aibu. Stephen Ngari: Tundo mutugo wa mutumia ni kuringa nguo, na tiguikara uria e kwenda. Translator: Katika maisha ya mwanamuke ni kukaa na adabu, yes. Com. Kabira: Thank you very much Mr. Ngari, thank you very much. Register your memorandum. John Muhu are you there? Evans Njoroge? David Githuku? Richard Kihanga Gichuhi? You are not in. Andrew Mbugua. Are you Andrew? Okey thank you. Andrew Mbugua: Good Afternoon. I would like to be associated with the views of that of the winning President. The winning President should have at least 50% of all the votes cast, and that the Vice President should be a running vote. We would also like to be associated with the sentiments of the separation of powers of the Judiciary, the Executive and the Legislature; and the views of that the President should not have alot of powers. That his powers should be trimmed. I would like you to come to Labour Laws. There is alot of poverty in Kenya this days, and to my view, that poverty is exercerbated mostly by the draconian labour laws neighbourhoods which are in Kenya right now. As such,, I would like to suggest that minimum wages should be abolished, and workers wages should be pegged on a percentage of the profits of the companies. And as such, all the companies should disclose their finances, so that they are seen by everybody. So that we don’t have that disparity of an M.D. getting maybe a million, and the other workers are getting about 3000/= shillings only. I would also like to suggest that NSSF should be voluntary, because what we contribute to NSSF, we don’t see what it does. It does’ nt help us so it should be voluntary, it should not be mandatory. I would also like to suggest that, the cabinet should be approved by parliamnet, such that the President does not chose his cabinet just like that? They should be vetted by Parliament with a 2/3 majority. That also goes to the Judiciary and PSs. I would like to talk a little bit more about this gap between the poor and the rich, and I believe to lower down this poverty 82
which is rampant in Kenya, we should do something about it. One of the things is this minimum wages. We don’t want people to be getting 3,000/= shillings per month. They should get a little bit more money than that. So that they can be able to clothe, feed and educate their children. So paying people about 3,000/= shillings is actually a joke. I believe if the Labour laws, something should be done such that, the minimum wage should be raised by about 500% from where it is now. We will be moving a little bit forward. Thank you. Com. Kabira: Thank you very much Mbugua, thank you. The next person is Kilechi. Is he here? No. Then Munyiri Kahuha? He is not in. Njenga MuNgai? No. Stanley Kuria? You are not there, Githinji David J. K? No. Paul MuNgai? No. James Kahindi? No. John Gitiku are you there? No. Daniel K. Manga? Julius M. Gachie are you there? David Kabiro, you are not there. Stephen Ndun’gu, you are not there, Mwangi Ngamate? Mwangi Ngamate: Good afternoon, Interjection – Com. Kabira: Sorry just give me a minute ni ndagwita ritwa.I had called you before, you can come wona arikia. Okey go ahead, this is who? Mwangi Ngamate: Mwangi Ngamate Com. Kabira: Go ahead Mwangi. Mwangi Ngamate: I wish to give my presentation on two branches. One, I am going to talk about the reactionary which we are going to consider the legacy that we have of the government that we have been having. We think of a pro-active one, whereby we are going to combine; may be the modern trends that we are having in the universe, so that we can be able to see whether they can be able to steer a Constitution that is going to drive us even through eternity. A Constitution that will take us through the unknown, because it seems that most of the times that we normally think of the Constitution, we will talk of the Presidency, and we will talk of the abolition of powers, and the distribution of powers,yet we don’t talk about the future. We are going to start may be with scene one, whereby we are with a cabinet minister somewhere, and we travel, we get to 12:00 ‘O’clock, and you are somewhere that you cannot get through with the radio. When it comes to 12:45 you are lucky that you are getting the KBC signal, and that the Cabinet Minister will be at peace to know that they were not thrown out. Then in scene two, we have a public prosecutor who through his sycophantic tendencies, he has been using political cases to collect CVs from a low positioned lawyer, and in one day he is made to be head of the Hon. Judges. Certainly, in such a Constitution, whereby we have somebody being appointed Chief Justice, there will be no diligence in hard work, and concrete 83
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CONSTITUTION OF KENYA REVIEW COMMIS
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CONSTITUENCY PUBLIC HEARINGS, KABET
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to see you yesterday and I think th
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Com. Wambua: Asante sana Gacheru, a
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alipo tawala, alimuondoa mzungu, la
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constituency ya Kabete, kuna police
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Ruth Wambui: I am from Nyathuna loc
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sasa haziendelei. Iko shida gani? I
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Numa talked about regions. These pr
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investigations have been completed.
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Translator: Sijajua kwamba ni sheri
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James Njenga: Undu uria ungi nii in
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Translator: Lakini watu wale wamean
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the age of 70 because, we are also
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one. Paul Karimi hayuko? Wilson Gic
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Page 33 and 34: Joshua Njoroge: Yes that is what I
Page 35 and 36: I give the following recommendation
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Page 39 and 40: so they never give them with merit.
Page 41 and 42: discuss some intrigues, or some bad
Page 43 and 44: Another thing is about our district
Page 45 and 46: have already occurred. The other po
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Page 49 and 50: Lands should be set aside in all co
Page 51 and 52: Hata nyinyi watu wa Wangige nyote s
Page 53 and 54: coming Constitution, whereby we hav
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Page 57 and 58: Grace Mugure: gwi Commissioner. Tra
Page 59 and 60: Translator: tuondolewe kodi. Grace
Page 61 and 62: David Kabuu: na kwa uguo ni ngeneir
Page 63 and 64: as a Kenyan. This is especially, wh
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Page 67 and 68: James Njogu: Thank you, I am James
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Page 87 and 88: Another point is that, Presidential
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Page 95 and 96: For those who are learned, the lawy
Page 97 and 98: Lilian Wanjiru: No ni nyuma nayo, T
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