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ägypten<br />

Interview<br />

countries like the Gran Canaries, Cyprus, Greece,<br />

Tunisia etc.<br />

What is the main obstacle for the tourism<br />

sector at the moment?<br />

Unfortunately, the media is not too kind to<br />

us and the images coming out of Cairo reflect as<br />

if the whole of Egypt was on fire. But that is not<br />

true. The problem is that the media is concentrating<br />

on one square kilometre in the centre of Cairo,<br />

compressing one million square kilometres of the<br />

whole of Egypt into that one square kilometre. I<br />

would say they are not too kind, that is why I am<br />

trying to use counter-effective methods to soften,<br />

dampen, and absorb the negative image.<br />

What kind of methods are these?<br />

Firstly, we decided to concentrate more on our<br />

beach tourism in the Red Sea area and our cultural<br />

tourism only in the South in Luxor and Aswan. Secondly,<br />

we are trying to convince the world through<br />

new technologies which are going now under refinement<br />

by using webcams in the various touristic<br />

spots to give live streams of real pictures of real<br />

people enjoying their time in Egypt. I believe this<br />

innovative way will help in the coming few months<br />

to generate more business to Egypt.<br />

But still there are many people who are afraid<br />

of coming to Egypt. What can you tell them?<br />

Number one, what happened in Egypt is a normal<br />

thing after a revolution. It happened likewise<br />

in Eastern Europe at the beginning of the 1990s.<br />

This is a symptom of a disease that is normal after<br />

a revolution. People were so many years suppressed;<br />

now they are free, now there is an exaggeration<br />

in many things. Number two: it is an<br />

internal, domestic issue, not a foreign issue. The<br />

foreigners and tourists are welcome to Egypt by<br />

everybody to enjoy their time. For sure, if we get<br />

11 million visitors in 2012, I tell the world there is<br />

something right. If there was a real problem, nobody<br />

would come. Who goes to a war zone area?<br />

We are not like this.<br />

What are your aims for <strong>2013</strong>?<br />

By the end of this year we will be more or less<br />

out of the transition period and building the<br />

country again. We are in a deep economic crisis<br />

and we need to get back to work, to stability. Even<br />

if there are political differences, down the road as<br />

Egyptians we will have a general consensus about<br />

that. Concerning tourism I have high hopes that<br />

by the end of this year we can even increase our<br />

numbers. We are targeting a very ambitious figure<br />

of approximately 14 million tourists which is 25<br />

percent more than last year. In terms of receipts<br />

we want to generate at least between 11.5 and 12<br />

billion US-Dollars in order to bring the figures almost<br />

to the numbers of 2010.<br />

What is the big strategy of the tourism in<br />

Egypt for the coming years?<br />

»What happened<br />

in Egypt is a<br />

normal thing<br />

after a revolution.<br />

It happened<br />

likewise<br />

in Eastern<br />

Europe in the<br />

1990s.<br />

«<br />

Mohamed<br />

Hisham<br />

curriculum<br />

vitae<br />

H<br />

.E. Mohamed Hisham<br />

Abbas Zaazou was<br />

born in 1954. He has<br />

over thirty years experience<br />

in the tourism industry. He<br />

holds a bachelor degree in<br />

commerce from Ain Shams<br />

University in 1980 and a certificate<br />

for a Public Private<br />

Partnership Program from<br />

Harvard Kennedy School. He<br />

began his career in the City<br />

Bank Group for five years in<br />

Cairo. Then he went to the<br />

USA and worked for R&H<br />

Tourism specializing in the<br />

Middle East. After the First<br />

Gulf War 1991 he returned to<br />

Egypt and became General<br />

Manager of Sakkara Travel<br />

Group. Later on, he was<br />

elected as Director General<br />

of the Egyptian Tourism<br />

Federation, and from 2007<br />

to 2012 he was Assistant<br />

Minister and then Senior<br />

Assistant Minister of Tourism.<br />

He also held the post of<br />

Vice Chairman of the Business<br />

Council of the UNWTO.<br />

Since August 2012 he has<br />

been Egyptian Minister of<br />

Tourism.<br />

To be honest, we are now like a patient who has<br />

had an operation and is in convalescence. We cannot<br />

make serious decisions and have to be realistic<br />

and pragmatic. Europe continues to be our most<br />

important market. That does not mean I am not<br />

trying to tap on other doors. We are trying to open<br />

other markets like South America, South East<br />

Asia, China and Japan. The two things I work on<br />

are: to increase the business, send the right messages<br />

to the world, to invite people from the media<br />

and from the travel industry to see the situation<br />

for themselves on ground. The second element is<br />

accessibility, e.g. increase deals with airline companies<br />

to fly into Egypt, because a passenger on a<br />

plane is a tourist to me. And to lift visa barriers.<br />

But will Egypt concentrate more on cultural<br />

tourism, green tourism or beach tourism?<br />

The UNWTO says that 60 to 70 percent of the<br />

traffic in the years to come until 2030 will be for<br />

leisure tourism. A landlocked country like Austria<br />

will depend on mountains and lakes for their business.<br />

For a country like Egypt it will be the beaches.<br />

My second grand plan will be for our Mediterranean<br />

coast. It is beautiful and close to Europe<br />

– closer than the Red Sea.<br />

Your Tunisian colleague told me in an interview<br />

that the Mediterranean countries<br />

should have joint activities as a destination.<br />

Do you agree?<br />

I agree, but not for the short or medium haul<br />

destinations. You can apply a joint campaign if<br />

you are dealing with longer haul markets like<br />

America or East Asia. Europe is very close, so Europeans<br />

will come to a single destination, either Tunisia,<br />

or Egypt etc. But visitors from far away will<br />

come the long way to see more than one country.<br />

And it would not be beach tourism, but cultural<br />

tourism or religious tourism.<br />

How important is the Austrian market for<br />

you?<br />

Austria is very important because it is in the<br />

top ten list of the number of tourists coming to<br />

Egypt. It is a small country but a fantastic one.<br />

Do you know Austria?<br />

I love Austria. I have been coming to Austria<br />

since the 1970s and I know it by heart. I have been<br />

travelling all over the country by car. The Heurige<br />

I like most, particularly the ones that are not touristic,<br />

like in Stammersdorf. I like the mountains,<br />

the Rax, Großglockner, Kaprun, and I went to the<br />

Opera Ball, dancing Waltz. I also enjoy Sachertorte.<br />

Austria is different from Germany and Switzerland.<br />

What is your summary for the readers?<br />

If you want to help democracy and freedom, a<br />

country that is aspiring modernity and equitability<br />

between women and men, please support it by<br />

coming to Egypt because when you come you help<br />

the economy. Spend your vacation in Egypt! •<br />

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