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Foucault, Biopolitics, and Governmentality

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ROUNDTABLE<br />

everything changes after the Gulf war. One has to introduce other things<br />

into this history. A very interesting case to discuss in relation to the idea of<br />

an administration of choice would be the medical reforms that Barack<br />

Obama is trying to infuse in the US. There is something like forty-five<br />

million people who have no access to medical care, others who have limited<br />

access to medical care because they have limited property. And then there<br />

are those who are against Obama’s reform, saying this is a socialist reform<br />

that prevents us from making choices. This is because if they had the<br />

property, they’d have the money. What this example really shows, is that the<br />

problem of choice is the problem of money.<br />

Thomas Lemke<br />

I want to return, very briefly, to the first point you were making, about the<br />

question of resistance: how can you resist productivity? I think the most<br />

important point would be to ask: What do we mean by resistance, especially<br />

since liberal governmentality takes into account forms of resistance;<br />

resistance is, after all, not something exterior to liberalism, challenging it<br />

from the outside. It is part of the productivity <strong>and</strong> mobility of liberalism,<br />

there’s a permanent process of response, adaptation, <strong>and</strong> reformulation. We<br />

should avoid the idea of a stable <strong>and</strong> fixed totality that remains unchanged,<br />

unchallenged—in fact it’s permanently challenged. And we have to make<br />

visible the points of friction <strong>and</strong> the points of transformation that too often<br />

escape from the analysis. And doing this would mean to reinscribe conduct<br />

<strong>and</strong> counter-conduct into this very productivity of liberal governmentality.<br />

As for the “bio”—the bio of biopolitics, I think there are several ways to<br />

address the problem. Let me mention just two of them. One would be to ask<br />

how it comes to be that the biological—the reference to the body—is so important<br />

in contemporary forms of government? The other would be to<br />

further investigate <strong>and</strong> imagine the bios—something that would be a more<br />

comprehensive concept of life, <strong>and</strong> one not necessarily limited to a biological<br />

idea, <strong>and</strong> where, yes, the biological may have a role, but not the<br />

dominant <strong>and</strong> central role that it has today in politics.<br />

Sven-Olov Wallenstein<br />

I think it is time to have some comments from the audience. Please, the<br />

floor is open.<br />

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