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Arbeit macht frei: - Fredrick Töben

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MR MARGO: Dr Toben, you say that when you saw the word<br />

‘indulgence’ in media publicity about Mr Pratt your mind went to the<br />

selling of indulgences by the Catholic Church; you recall that evidence?<br />

Dr <strong>Töben</strong>: Indeed.<br />

MR MARGO: And you referred also to the fact that you had seen<br />

pictures of a lot of prominent people visiting Mr Pratt. You described it as<br />

a who’s who of prominent people, or words to that effect; you recall that<br />

evidence?<br />

Dr <strong>Töben</strong>: Yes.<br />

MR MARGO: And was it your impression, or understanding when you<br />

thought about the Catholic Church, and saw those people, that Mr Pratt<br />

might have received an indulgence that was purchased in some way<br />

through influence or money?<br />

Dr <strong>Töben</strong>: Not at all.<br />

MR MARGO: Why did you think of the selling of indulgences in<br />

connection with the publicity about Mr Pratt?<br />

Dr <strong>Töben</strong>: I am a student of history. I did not – I have not in the last – as<br />

Mr Jones would know – in ‘96, from ‘96 onwards, since we’ve been<br />

locked in battle, I have not come across this term ‘indulgence,’ and the<br />

first thing that came to mind was when this – there’s this historical event<br />

occurred many centuries ago, I think, fourteenth, fifteenth century or so,<br />

and this is where the term came in. And so I certainly wondered, what’s<br />

going on here, and then, of course, I thought of Marcus Einfeld, and I<br />

realised, no, the justice system is functioning. Therefore, the reason in this<br />

case, the indulgence referred to a kind of mercy, that the judge was<br />

showing towards Mr Pratt, who was dying. And as someone who cannot<br />

justify himself in court, surely he should not be continued to be<br />

prosecuted. The case goes. It drops.<br />

MR MARGO: And you read in the press, did you not, that what<br />

happened in Mr Pratt’s case was that the prosecution withdrew the<br />

charges?<br />

Dr <strong>Töben</strong>: I actually didn’t see the item. This morning I read the<br />

Advertiser, where it stated that this was a – I think it was a dropping of the<br />

prosecution, yes …<br />

MR MARGO: And you read also that?<br />

Dr <strong>Töben</strong>: which makes sense.<br />

MR MARGO: I’m sorry?<br />

Dr <strong>Töben</strong>: Which makes sense.<br />

MR MARGO: And you read also, Dr Toben …?<br />

Dr <strong>Töben</strong>: Sorry.<br />

MR MARGO: And you read also that Mr Pratt’s lawyers requested that,<br />

instead, that the charges be dismissed, not withdrawn?<br />

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