Arbeit macht frei: - Fredrick Töben

that needs a court order to be protected and believed. Persecution
through legal prosecution – And then you refer to the judgment of the
court. And you continue, there’s a picture of you: Fredrick Toben after
court case on 16 April 2009. If you believe in something and you want to
have that freedom to express your opinions, then you should be prepared
for sacrifices. Anyone who believes in the Holocaust Shoah has blood on
their hands. And what I ask you to address is, you said in your affidavit
that you had taken down offending material after judgment, this is
something that was on website on 17 April, could you explain that please?
Dr Töben: This is – I’m aware of the document. This is an illustration of
how slowly I understood or put into effect the court order. At midnight I
took down the website. Then the next day I kept on just one page. I took
advice, legal advice, and then things were removed as you noticed, you
were busy looking at it every day to see if you could find something. And
so every day it went less and less to this present page, because I am
illustrating, thereby, that I need legal guidance to interpret these court
orders for me, because I sensed what I wrote there, ‘Persecutions
through,’ the judgment was put on there for – because anything that’s in
the public, anything that passes through the registry I understand to be of
public – in the public domain. And so …
MR MARGO: I will interrupt you there, please, Dr Toben. You refer to
the judgment - that’s quite correct, it’s a public judgment and can be
referred to – but you refer to it between these words. Above the reference
to the judgment you put, ‘Persecution through legal prosecution’?
Dr Töben: Yes.
MR MARGO: Then comes your reference to the judgment, and then
come the words: Now Toben’s defence is: I’m only following Judge Bruce
Lander’s orders.
MR MARGO: There’s no real contrition there, is there?
Dr Töben: I don’t see the contrition – why should I – I said to the lady
who interviewed me, I said, ‘Why should I regret anything? I’m doing my
very, very best, my very best to negotiate through these orders which I
don’t quite follow, and I don’t even understand why they weren’t in force
in 2004, and only because I managed to get to Tehran I sort of escaped
your legal clutches.’ But the problem is highlighted by this approach, Mr
Margo, and that’s why I wish you to concede to this, that it is possible that
I will submit material. It’s very difficult for me. As you see, the last page
there’s nothing – nothing offensive. But, of course, anything I write may be
offensive to you.
MR MARGO: Dr Toben, on 14 April 2009, before the judgment of his
Honour, you gave an interview to The Australian; do you recall that?
Dr Töben: 14 April? Can you just run it past me?
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