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Arbeit macht frei: - Fredrick Töben

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MR MARGO: It’s the case, is it not, that right up to this moment it’s a<br />

dilemma for you, whether you should tell what you described as the truth<br />

or obey the law. That is the orders of the court. That’s correct, isn’t it?<br />

Dr <strong>Töben</strong>: It is not correct because that is your dilemma, because you<br />

have not read the full context. I say the Zionist Talmudist to this question,<br />

do I tell the truth or do I obey the law? They say, ‘Obey the law, obey the<br />

law, obey the law.’ The Hegelians, they say, ‘Tell the truth and obey the<br />

law,’ and this is the course I had been taken throughout these<br />

proceedings. To tell the truth and obey the law, not just to obey the law.<br />

MR MARGO: I put it to you that that’s a dishonest description of your<br />

position, Dr Toben, because you know very well that if you obeyed the<br />

orders of Branson J, and if you honoured your undertaking to Moore J,<br />

you could not tell the truth as you see it, about the Holocaust on your web<br />

site?<br />

Dr <strong>Töben</strong>: Mr Margo, you are raising issues here. You are eliminating the<br />

normal dialectics of Hegel. You are adopting the Marxist Talmudic<br />

dialectic process.<br />

HIS HONOUR: Dr Toben, it would be easier if you simply answered Mr<br />

Margo’s question, if you wouldn’t mind?<br />

Dr <strong>Töben</strong>: Could he repeat that again, please?<br />

HIS HONOUR: If you would put it again, Mr Margo?<br />

MR MARGO: Could the question be read back if there is anybody who<br />

could …<br />

HIS HONOUR: No.<br />

MR MARGO: I’ll withdraw ..<br />

HIS HONOUR: Well, I’ll put the - I think I can remember the question.<br />

Is it not the case, Dr Toben, that if you are obliged to comply with the<br />

order of Branson J and honour the undertaking you gave to Moore J, you<br />

would not be able to tell the truth, as you understand the truth?<br />

Dr <strong>Töben</strong>: I have problems understanding what that question actually<br />

implies or even if it states that if I follow the orders …<br />

HIS HONOUR: Are you saying you can’t understand the question?<br />

Dr <strong>Töben</strong>: I’m having problems …<br />

HIS HONOUR: Are you saying you can’t understand the question?<br />

Dr <strong>Töben</strong>: Because what I …<br />

HIS HONOUR: No, is that what you’re saying? You can’t understand it?<br />

Dr <strong>Töben</strong>: I’m trying to follow what you’re saying.<br />

HIS HONOUR: No, no, I’m just asking you. Can you not understand the<br />

question? You can say yes or no to that?<br />

Dr <strong>Töben</strong>: I would like to hear it again. I can’t …<br />

HIS HONOUR: Well, I’ll ask the question again, but if you can’t<br />

understand, say so. The question that Mr Margo asked, and I’m<br />

paraphrasing, is that if you complied with the order that Branson J made<br />

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