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8-<strong>25</strong>-<strong>04</strong> <strong>Trial</strong> <strong>Transcript</strong><br />

9 you arrived.<br />

10 A. When I entered the room, this room was about, smaller than<br />

11 this room, maybe half the size of this room. And surrounding<br />

12 the gurney where Monseñor's body was, there were about almost<br />

13 a hundred people.<br />

14 Q. Were there any police at the Policlínica?<br />

15 A. No.<br />

16 Q. Should they have been there?<br />

17 A. Yes. They should have been there due to security reasons,<br />

18 and that's why, when I arrived, I called my secretary and I<br />

19 asked him to call the police and ask for backup, because there<br />

20 was so much people that we weren't able to work.<br />

21 Q. Was an autopsy performed?<br />

22 A. Yes, but before this, I should say that I had to make<br />

23 everybody leave the room. There were so many people in the<br />

24 room, just people from the town and nuns and relatives and one<br />

<strong>25</strong> of his brothers and another sister who was a nun, and just a<br />

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1 lot of people.<br />

2 Q. Okay. Can you briefly describe the autopsy, please.<br />

3 A. Yes. As soon as all this group of people left, then there<br />

4 was only the forensic doctor, the main doctor, who was<br />

5 Mr. Cuellar Ortiz, and another doctor by the name of Pedro<br />

6 Chavarria along with two others. Then x-rays were taken. But<br />

7 at first, they couldn't detect where the bullet was, and so<br />

8 two or three more x-rays had to be taken. Then they found<br />

9 three fragments, bullet fragments, inside the thorax.<br />

10 After that, the doctors, in my presence, then<br />

11 proceeded to cut the cartilage in the sternum area to open the<br />

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