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8-<strong>25</strong>-<strong>04</strong> <strong>Trial</strong> <strong>Transcript</strong><br />

9 It was an extremely difficult place to find out<br />

10 information for anyone. From Bob -- Ambassador White. Every<br />

11 single ambassador, every single researcher.<br />

12 It is the country, in the years that we are looking<br />

13 at, where more journalists died than in the entire war in Viet<br />

14 Nam. More foreign journalists died in El Salvador in the '80<br />

15 to '83 period, than journalists who died in the entire war in<br />

16 Viet Nam.<br />

17 It is a place where information is extremely<br />

18 difficult to gather and, therefore, there is a very high<br />

19 premium on that information.<br />

20 Q. If I could draw your attention to page 16 of your CV,<br />

21 there are listed there some positions. Let me start with one<br />

22 near the bottom. The Latin American Policy Group for U.S.<br />

23 Representative Michael Barnes, Chairman of the House Committee<br />

24 on Inter-American Affairs, 1983 to 1985.<br />

<strong>25</strong> Could you please tell us about that.<br />

KARL - D<br />

<strong>25</strong>1<br />

1 A. Excuse me, could I add one thing to my last answer?<br />

2 Q. Sure.<br />

3 A. When things are dangerous in El Salvador, you almost<br />

4 always get a warning of some sort. And there are gaps in my<br />

5 travels to El Salvador, and that is because it was my personal<br />

6 judgment, based on my room being searched or being followed,<br />

7 or something that made me think it was too dangerous, to leave<br />

8 the country and get out.<br />

9 And so as a foreigner, you have a great deal more<br />

10 protection in that country than a Salvadoran would. But it is<br />

11 extremely dangerous. And I think that all of us, the very few<br />

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