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19 Brazil.<br />

8-<strong>25</strong>-<strong>04</strong> <strong>Trial</strong> <strong>Transcript</strong><br />

20 BY MR. Van AELSTYN:<br />

21 Q. Prior to the Gildred Professorship, the next position is<br />

22 the William R. and Gretchen Kimball University Fellow in<br />

23 undergraduate position. Why don't you run through this. You<br />

24 have a better understanding than we do.<br />

<strong>25</strong> A. That's an endowed fellowship that was given to the ten<br />

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245<br />

1 best teachers at Stanford, or what the University deemed to be<br />

2 the ten best teachers at Stanford.<br />

3 Q. All right. Are there different levels of professorship,<br />

4 associate, full, or anything like that?<br />

5 A. Yes, at every university there is assistant professor,<br />

6 which was what I was at Harvard University.<br />

7 Q. When was that?<br />

8 A. It's on the vita. It was 1981 to 1985.<br />

9 Q. Why don't we move forward from there?<br />

10 A. Yeah. I then moved to Stanford University and I was<br />

11 promoted to the Associate Professor of that -- the difference<br />

12 is that that means that you have tenure and are a permanent<br />

13 position in the University.<br />

14 Once you get to the tenured level, you -- there are<br />

15 different levels after that. Full professor is the highest<br />

16 level in a number of universities. There are other research<br />

17 universities that have endowed chairs, and that is the highest<br />

18 possible place you can get. That's what the Gildred Professor<br />

19 is. So an endowed chair and a tenured full professor at<br />

20 Stanford.<br />

21 Q. You began as an assistant professor at Harvard, you moved<br />

22 to Stanford, and became as an --<br />

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