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8-<strong>25</strong>-<strong>04</strong> <strong>Trial</strong> <strong>Transcript</strong><br />

12 of us who actually carried out extensive research there, knew<br />

13 that we had to go in and out and leave relatively quickly. It<br />

14 was not a safe place.<br />

15 Q. I'm sorry, I may have misunderstood you. Warning signs,<br />

16 such as your room being searched and stuff, was that here in<br />

17 the United States or in El Salvador?<br />

18 A. El Salvador.<br />

19 Q. Can you give us an example of the time in which you acted<br />

20 on something which you interpreted as a warning?<br />

21 A. Yes. I came back to my room one day in a hotel, this was<br />

22 in 1983, during a state of siege, and it was very clear that<br />

23 somebody had been in my room. And I packed up and left the<br />

24 country.<br />

<strong>25</strong> Q. That's pretty clear. So if I could draw your attention<br />

KARL - D<br />

<strong>25</strong>2<br />

1 then to page 16 and ask you to discuss a couple of these<br />

2 items. I mentioned, first, the house subcommittee on<br />

3 Inter-American affairs, 1983 to 1985. What was that?<br />

4 A. Michael Barnes was the Head of the House Subcommittee.<br />

5 This was the Committee that was most involved in U.S. policy<br />

6 towards Central America.<br />

7 And at this time, U.S. policy in Central America was<br />

8 an extremely controversial issue. I worked with him. I was<br />

9 at Harvard at the time, and we do a lot more work with<br />

10 Congress when you are on the East Coast, and I investigated a<br />

11 number of things for that Committee.<br />

12 One of the things, for example, I and others<br />

13 investigated, was the use of U.S. aid. There was a great deal<br />

14 of money pouring into El Salvador from the United States, and<br />

15 there was trouble accounting for what was happening to that<br />

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