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8-<strong>25</strong>-<strong>04</strong> <strong>Trial</strong> <strong>Transcript</strong><br />

16 (Plaintiff's Exhibit 113 was received.)<br />

17 THE COURT: Let me ask, are the signatures of<br />

18 Dr. Chavarria and -- I can't tell, Victor Manuel Pérez Angel,<br />

19 was that a witness or was that another physician?<br />

20 THE WITNESS: Dr. Chavarria signed as the physician.<br />

21 Not all of the physicians signed, but Dr. Chavarria signed for<br />

22 all of them. And Victor Manuel Pérez Angel was my secretary.<br />

23 THE COURT: Thank you. Was your secretary present<br />

24 during the autopsy?<br />

<strong>25</strong> THE WITNESS: Yes. As judicial secretary, he was<br />

RAMIREZ AMAYA - D<br />

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1 present.<br />

2 THE COURT: What is the title that appears below your<br />

3 name?<br />

4 THE WITNESS: Fourth Criminal Court Judge.<br />

5 THE COURT: You may proceed.<br />

6 BY MR. EISENBRANDT:<br />

7 Q. What time did the autopsy finish?<br />

8 A. The autopsy lasted over three hours, almost four hours.<br />

9 Q. Where did you go next?<br />

10 A. After that, I again spoke to my secretary to call the<br />

11 police so that the police could take us or accompany us,<br />

12 rather, to the scene of the crime that would be the Divine<br />

13 Providence Church, where Monseñor was shot. And after that,<br />

14 since the police didn't come, I, in my own private vehicle, on<br />

15 my own vehicle, I took the secretary, just the secretary and<br />

16 myself. We went to the church.<br />

17 When we exited the vehicle, we also saw Florentin<br />

18 Melendez and Roberto Cuellar, who were attorneys for the<br />

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