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8-<strong>25</strong>-<strong>04</strong> <strong>Trial</strong> <strong>Transcript</strong><br />

9 reasoning behind that was that these were so thoroughly<br />

10 repressive and corrupt that they could not be saved, they had<br />

11 to be completely dismantled, there was a great deal of fear<br />

12 that the death squad apparatus that operated out of both of<br />

13 these forces, the National Police and the Treasury Police,<br />

14 would continue to operate. In other words, that you could<br />

15 dismantle the formal institutions, but you would not find a<br />

16 way to dismantle the death squads. And that is the same<br />

17 policemen taking off their uniforms and acting as a death<br />

18 squad.<br />

19 And that meant that it became very important to try<br />

20 to figure out how to dismantle the death squads as well as the<br />

21 formal military apparatus.<br />

22 Q. And that concern of the United Nations and the U.S.<br />

23 government led to --<br />

24 A. The U.S. government. And they were ordered to do that,<br />

<strong>25</strong> since death squads are very secret by their nature, it was<br />

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1 important to have as much information as possible about<br />

2 everything everybody knew about death squads, so that pressure<br />

3 could be put in the appropriate places after the signing of<br />

4 peace agreements to make sure that these squads couldn't<br />

5 continue to operate in the ways they had. That was the hope.<br />

6 It was not entirely realized.<br />

7 But because of that, the Clinton Administration<br />

8 declassified an enormous amount of documents. I believe that<br />

9 I think over the years, I probably read somewhere between 8-<br />

10 and 10,000 of them. That --<br />

11 Q. So you reviewed some of the documents that were released<br />

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