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8-<strong>25</strong>-<strong>04</strong> <strong>Trial</strong> <strong>Transcript</strong><br />

23 associate at the -- well, it's in Spanish. A university in<br />

24 Venezuela in Caracas from 1977 to 1979.<br />

<strong>25</strong> I believe you testified that you met a number of<br />

KARL - D<br />

264<br />

1 Salvadorans that were in exile there at that time. Is that<br />

2 when you began your research interest on El Salvador?<br />

3 A. Yes. And I was living in Caracas. And Caracas had, at<br />

4 that time, not that Venezuela had, at that time, a Christian<br />

5 Democratic Party, very important Christian Democratic Party<br />

6 and a very important Social Democratic party.<br />

7 Those two parties had extensive contacts with the<br />

8 Christian Democratic Party of El Salvador, and with an<br />

9 affiliated Social Democratic Party in El Salvador, which meant<br />

10 there was a constant flow of people from El Salvador to<br />

11 Venezuela because of their very close relationships.<br />

12 Now, the other thing that's important is that some of<br />

13 those people were actually in exile and actually lived in<br />

14 Venezuela. So they came partly because of their contacts with<br />

15 the Venezuelans, but they also came because some of El<br />

16 Salvador's leading figures, particularly Duarte, were actually<br />

17 living in exile in Venezuela at that time.<br />

18 So it was a real center of the Democratic opposition<br />

19 to military rule in El Salvador. So I didn't have to go very<br />

20 far.<br />

21 Q. All right.<br />

22 Your Honor, we will be seeking to qualify Professor<br />

23 Karl as an expert in a number of related areas. Maybe if I<br />

24 could identify those in that line now, and then we will turn<br />

<strong>25</strong> to the bases for her opinions in this matter for which we<br />

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