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8-<strong>25</strong>-<strong>04</strong> <strong>Trial</strong> <strong>Transcript</strong><br />

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1 What they would do is they would send out lots of<br />

2 feelers to people who were working on this area, and they<br />

3 would say, "Give us your opinion of what's going on here, or<br />

4 read this draft for us and tell us if you think it's right or<br />

5 it's not right."<br />

6 So there is a -- an academic give and take in these<br />

7 things.<br />

8 Q. So you did provide some comments on the Woerner Report<br />

9 that you referenced before that was completed?<br />

10 A. No, not before it was completed, no. But I talked to<br />

11 General Woerner about it a number of times.<br />

12 Q. That was my next question. You have interacted with<br />

13 military academics, you mentioned.<br />

14 Have you ever had any interaction in an advisory or<br />

15 other capacity with the actual officers themselves, with the<br />

16 U.S. military?<br />

17 A. I would say there is two types of interactions I had. I<br />

18 did extensive interviewing in what's called the "Mil Group" of<br />

19 the U.S. Embassy. That's the military group of the U.S.<br />

20 Embassy. This was a very big group in the Embassy. It was<br />

21 actually supposed to be limited by law to 56 advisers,<br />

22 although there were all types of other people with other<br />

23 titles.<br />

24 So there was a big military -- U.S. military<br />

<strong>25</strong> component inside El Salvador, and I certainly did lots and<br />

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1 lots of interviews there.<br />

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