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rogorc Cvens Zalian axlobels~
brebi.
_ Cems „daverbovkebas” ukve
meored cdilobT, rom
„gavqocde”, magram am saqmidan
araferi gamova, lado batono!
_ hoda, aba, ra vqna?!
_ ise, „ocnebas” sportsmenebic
bevri hyavs _ ras akeTeben,
aravin icis, magram mTavar-
ia, parlamentSi arian!
_ Tqven gaqvT aseTi Sexeduleba,
polemikaSi ver Semoval
da ra gavakeTo? Tavisi unarebis
gamovlenis saSualeba yvela
adamians aqvs da ratom ggoniaT,
rom sportsmens logikuri
azrovnebis unari ar gaaCnia da
ar SeuZlia, swori gadawyvetileba
miiRos? ggoniaT, rom politikosebad
ibadebian an vinme
qmnis politikosad? reigani
xom kinoxelovani iyo, magram
ramxela politikuri nabijebi
gadadga. hoda, sportsmenebze
aseT rames nu vityviT _ Tqven
ar gamaRlebT, am SemTxvevaSi!
Tqveni Cemdami momarTva Sei-
Zleba, ironiulia, anu meubnebiT,
rom eqimi var da politikaSi
ra minda...
_ batono lado, cudad gamomivida
_ TqvenTvis namdvilad
ar miTqvams, politika-
Si ra gindaT-meTqi...
_ ki, rogor ara, iribad
meubnebiT, magram ara uSavrs,
ar mwyins...
_ ise, parlamentma eliso
bolqvaZes, rogorc vici, roia-
li dRemde ar SeuZina... axla,
es replikac ironiad ar Cam-
iTvaloT! mokled, krizisidan
gamosvlis gzebze vsaubrob-
diT...
_ krizisidan gamosasvlelad
ramdenime komponenti arsebobs.
_ kerZod?
_ saerTaSoriso komponenti,
anu qveynebma, romlebic am pandemiis
dros rTul mdgomareobaSi
aRmoCndnen, erTmaneTs
daxmarebis xeli unda gauwodon.
amasTan, qveynis Sida potenciali
miznobrivad unda gamoviyenoT
da is midgomebi unda
gaZlierdes, romlebic postkovidur
periodze iqneba orientirebuli.
imisTvis, rom stabilurobisa
da winsvlis gancda
Seiqmnas, qveynis Tavisufal zonad
gamosacxadeblad, anu turizmis,
ekonomikisa da samaspin-
Zlo biznesis aRsadgenad yvelaferi
unda gakeTdes. adamianebma
erTmaneTis meoxebiTa da
eqimebis rCeviT is didi gamowveva
unda daamarcxon, romelsac
pandemia hqvia.
_ pandemia iqiT iyos da,
politikuri krizisi rogor
unda davZlioT?
_ ramdenadac ar unda
gagikvirdeT, vambob, rom es xelovnuri
politikuri krizisia,
rameTu qveynis destabilizacia
maqsimalurad moxdes. yvelafer
amas ki ruseTis saxiT
didi stimulatori hyavs!
_ am logikiT, kremlis pro-
pagandisti pozneri TbilisSi
opoziciam Camoiyvana?
`ver vityvi, rom saxelmwifom vaqcinaciis propagandas rame daaklo.
ubralod, bevri eqimia da yvelam Tqva, ai, me imaze meti vicio. qveynis
garedanac uamravi azri iyo. Jurnalisti 5 aTasia, 10 aTasi - eqimi, 15 aTasi
- politikosi da adamianebi daibnen, ver gaiges, ra xdeba. amitom ukeTesi
iqneboda, am pandemias samyaro ufro mobilizebuli daxvedroda~
`ggoniaT, rom politikosebad ibadebian an
vinme qmnis politikosad? reigani xom
kinoxelovani iyo, magram ramxela
politikuri nabijebi gadadga. hoda,
sportsmenebze aseT rames nu vityviT - Tqven
ar gamaRlebT, am SemTxvevaSi! Tqveni Cemdami
momarTva SeiZleba, ironiulia, anu meubnebiT,
rom eqimi var da politikaSi ra minda...~
_ diax, iseve rogorc gavrilovTan
hqonda kavSiri. yovel
SemTxvevaSi, piradad me ase
vfiqrob da logikuri msjelobidanac
ase gamodis.
_ romeli logikuri msje-
lobidan?
_ yoveli gadadgmuli nabiji
magaTTvis winaswaraa cnobili,
anu erTmaneTs aZliereben.
_ es rogor?
_ ai, me Camovdivar da Sen
unda gaabuqoo. es kargad organizebuli
politikuri Tama-
Sia da rogori maprovocirebeli
kiTxvac unda damisvaT, am
azrs ar Sevicvli!
_ Tqveni nebaa, magram Tu is,
rasac ambobT, simarTlea, maSin
Cndeba kiTxva: qveynis uSiSroe-
ba sad brZandeba?
_ uSiSroeba ki ara, am sakiTxs
kanoni wyvets, anu Tu
kanoni gadaadgilebas ar ukrZalavs,
adamians SeuZlia, qveyana-
Si Semovides.
_ sxvaTa Soris, es kanoni
mxolod ruseTis ki ara, nebismieri
qveynis moqalaqeze vrceldeba.
gasagebia, rom pozneri,
rogorc premierma gvi-
Txra, aSS-is moqalaqea, magram
is okupirebul afxazeTSia nam-
yofi, Sesabamisad, okupaciis
kanonis Tanaxmad, misi saqarTveloSi
SemoSveba ar SeiZlebo-
da!
_ amas daasabuTebT?
_ Tavad pozneri ambobs,
rom...
_ Tqven elaparakeT?
_ pozneris videointerviu
vnaxe, batono lado, sadac ambobs,
diax, okupirebul afax-
azeTSi var namyofio...
_ am SemTxvevaSi, im adamianebs
unda moekiTxoT, vinc es
„probeli” dauSva... ise, Tqveni
da sxva Jurnalistebis SeSfo-
Teba ar maxsovs, pozneri sxva
xelisuflebis drosac rom Camovida.
maSin ratom araferi
TqviT?
_ simarTle giTxraT, arc
gamigia, rom pozneri sxva xe-
lisuflebis drosac Camovida
TbilisSi...
_ yvelam icis da Tqven ar
iciT?
_ gaqvT sabuTi, rom pozneri
sxva xelisuflebis dro-
sac Camovida?
_ im interviuSi, romelic
Tqven axseneT, pozneri imasac
ityoda, saqarTveloSi sxva
dros kidev rodis iyo.
_ ara, magas namdvilad ar
ambobs...
_ sxvaTa Soris, axlandeli
Camosvlac provocirebulia _
ai, Camovedi da Tqveni Sidaganawesi
davarRvie, bunti unda
atexoT, xelisufali gaakritikoT
da gareT gamoxvideTo.
ai, esec misi provokacia.
_ vTqvaT, asea, magram xelis-
uflebam provokacia ratom ar
aRkveTa da kanoni ar daicva?
_ ver getyviT... es im saxelisuflebo
nawils unda mohkiTxoT,
romelmac mis
pasports yuradReba ar miaqcia.
_ ra amis pasuxia da, gadamdgari
premieri giorgi gaxar-
ia axal politikur sicocxles
iwyebs. bevri „meocnebe”, rogorc
amboben, gaxarias jerar-
Seqmnil partiaSi apirebs „ga-
daportirebas”. SemoTavazeba
Tqvenc rom miiRoT, xom ar da-
fiqrdebiT?
_ ara!
_ ratom?
_ iq, sadac var, imitom var,
rom valdebulebebi maqvs.
_ anu?
_ ramdenime sakanonmdeblo
aqtze vmuSaob, perspeqtiva
maqvs da am gundTan erTad saboloo
mizani maqvs _ 2024 wels
ambiciuri gegmis ganxorcielebaSi
miviRo monawileoba.
_ ise, ras fiqrobT, gaxari-
am swori nabiji gadadga, roca
„ocnebas” gaemijna?
_ es mosaxleobam unda gadawyvitos.
Cemi azri ki maqvs, magram
sajarod ar vafiqsireb.
_ bevr „meocnebes” gaxaria,
rogorc lideri, axlac mos-
wons...
_ adamianebs aseTi Tviseba
aqvT: mTeli TavianTi Sinagani
potenciali sakuTar TavTan
aqvT gaigivebuli da sxvebis
mimarT damokidebulebas ase
wyveten. es subieqturi gadawyvetilebaa
da maT obieqturobas
ver Sevafaseb da rogor
davaknino an Sevaqo? nebismier
adamians aqvs ufleba, Tavisi
arCevani gaakeTos.
_ bolos, batono lado,
rame damaimedebeli miTxariT
da nervebs aRar mogiSliT.
_ damaimedebeli ra giTxraT,
magram qveyanas ori udidesi adamiani
daaklda _ guram doCanaSvili
da anzor erqomaiSvili.
orive Tavisi qveynis uangaro
msaxuri iyo, magram roca pozneri
ufro salaparakoa, vidre am ori
adamianis naRvawi, Cveni qveynis
momavals sworad ver vxedavT.
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