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gavrilovis SemTxvevaSi, axlac
aCvenes TavianTi mtkice pozicia.
pozneri _ es iyo gavrilovi-2.
Tavis droze, arc gavrilovis
viziti yofila SemTxveviTi, radgan
es iyo kbilis mosinjvis
politika, ras izamdnen saqarTvelos
moqalaqeebi _ gaatarebdnen
Tu ara am faqts. pozneri am
SemTxvevaSi meore testi iyo.
amas akeTebs „qarTuli ocnebis”
xelisufleba. warmoudgenelia,
maT ar scodnodaT, ra SesaZlo
protesti mohyveboda pozneris
Camosvlas da zogadad ra poziciebi
hqonda mas saqarTvelos-
Tan mimarTebiT. aseve warmoudgenelia,
ar scodnodaT pozneris
vinaoba, vin aris is, sabWoTa
kavSiridan moyolebuli ra politikas
atarebs da saqarTvelos
Sesaxeb ra mtruli politika uWiravs.
pozneris SemoSveba calsaxad
danaSauli iyo. saqarTvelos
Sinagan saqmeTa saministros
sruli ufleba hqonda, sazRvarze
ar SemoeSva pozneri, magram
maT es ar gaakeTes da Semou-
Sves. ramdenime kviris win gavrcelda
video, sadac Canda, rom
saqarTvelos sazRvarze ucxoe-
Tis moqalaqes ar uSvebdnen, mas
ar hqonia okupaciis Sesaxeb kanoni
darRveuli, magram mainc ar
SemouSves. ase miiCnies saWirod.
ramdenad sworad _ es calke sakiTxia,
magram sazRvarze SemoSvebis
nawilSi okupaciis Sesaxeb
kanonic arafer SuaSia. adamiani,
romelic Seni qveynis mimarT mtrulad
aris ganwyobili da pir-
movaWreebi arian~
dapir vTqvaT, mteria Seni qveynis,
uSveb qveyanaSi, Rreobas uwyob
da eqskortiT acileb, _ amaze
metad damamcirebeli ra SeiZleba
iyos?! _ es gaxldaT danaSaulebrivi
qmedeba, sxva araferi.
_ saboloo jamSi, poznersa
da mis Tanxmleb pirebs, samo-
qalaqo protestis Sedegad,
dagegmilze adre mouwiaT Cveni
qveynis datoveba, Tumca Semdeg
gagrZelda diskusia, rom pro-
testis gamoxatvis formebi ar
iyo swori, magaliTad, „girCis”
erT-erTma liderma iago xviCiam
ganacxada: „iseTi qceva, rogo-
ric quCebSi xdeboda, qarTve-
lebs ar gvekadreba”, _ Tqven
ras fiqrobT protestis gamox-
atvis formebze?
_ Tu vinmes rame ar ekadreboda
da ukadrebeli Caidina, es
iyo am SemTxvevaSi „qarTuli
ocnebis” xelisufleba, romelmac
pozneris sazRvarze SemoSvebiT
damamcirebeli qmedebebi
`Cveni qveynisTvis Zalian didi ubedurebaa,
jer erTi, is, rom `qarTuli ocnebaa~
xelisuflebaSi da im situaciamde mivediT,
sadac qveynis sanqcirebazea saubari. Seqmnil
viTarebaSi damnaSavea mmarTveli Zala.
samwuxarod, `qarTulma ocnebam~ miiyvana
qveyana am mdgomareobamde~
da kanondarRvevebi Caidina. es
yvelaferi ki okupantis saameblad
gaakeTa. rac Seexeba protestis
formebs, kvercxis srola
ar aris mTavari, aramed mniSvnelovania
protestis neba, rom
Seni qveynis okupantis mTavari
ideologi Semovida qveyanaSi da
aman aRgaSfoTa. vimeoreb: xelisuflebam
yvelaferi Zalian
kargad icoda da dagegma, rogorc
gavrilovis SemTxvevaSi,
aseve pozneris, magram saqarTvelos
moqalaqeebis protesti
qveynis okupaciasTan da RirsebasTan
dakavSirebiT aris mtkice
da Seuvali, amas rusuli xelisufleba
saqarTveloSi win ver
aRudgeba.
_ molaparakebebs rom davu-
brundeT, evropam da Cvenma
dasavlelma megobrebma scades,
magram molaparakebebi uSedegod
dasrulda. am mocemuloba-
Si ra samoqmedo areali dagr-
CaT opozicias da protestTan
dakavSirebiT ra konkretuli
gegma gaqvT?
_ me SemiZlia „lelos” saxeliT
giTxraT da aseve darwmunebuli
var, rom mTeli opoziciis
mowodebaa, protesti yovelTvis
iyos kanonisa da konstituciis
farglebSi da es asec iqneba.
rac Seexeba Cvens dasavlel megobrebsa
da partniorebs, maTi aqtiuroba
ase ukvalod ar Caivlis.
isini ar arian romelime
konkretuli politikuri Zalis
megobrebi, aramed isini arian Cveni
qveynis mxardamWerebi. udidesi
Zalisxmeva, mxardaWera da resursi
aqvT Cadebuli Cveni qveynis
ganviTarebisTvis, aqedan gamomdinare,
Cveni maTi imedi gvaqvs da
darwmunebuli var, rom qveyanaSi
vadamdeli arCevnebi Catardeba
da polipatimrebi datoveben
sapyrobiles. molaparakebis magidaze,
Cveni dasavleli partniorebis,
batoni danielsonis
TandaswrebiT, „qarTuli ocnebis”
mxridan midioda tyveTa vaWroba.
eseni arian tyveebiT movaWre
adamianebi, rusuli stilis
xelisufleba. es yvelaferi erTxel
da samudamod xom unda dasruldes.
amis dasrulebas ki
sWirdeba vadamdeli saparlamento
arCevnebi, politikuri devnis
dasruleba. „lelo” am poziciaSi
iyo da iqneba mtkice da erTiani.
„lelom” daaxloebiT erTi kviraa
daiwyo Tavisi kampania vadamdel
arCevnebTan dakavSirebiT, Cven
vakeTebT gamokiTxvas, am proces-
Si yvelani vmonawileobT, maT
Soris, partiis liderebi, uSualod
mosaxleobas vxvdebiT da
warmoudgenlad didi aqtiurobaa.
Cems molodinsac ki gadaaWarba
im xalxis raodenobam, romelic
vadamdel arCevnebs iTxovs.
isini ara mxolod „lelos”, aramed
sxva politikuri partiebis mxardamWerebic
arian. saqarTvelos
mosaxleobis am moTxovnas „qarTuli
ocneba”, ubralod, ver gatexavs.
_ ra garantia gaqvT, rom
adamianebi, romlebsac Tqven
xvdebiT, 15 maiss opoziciuri
partiebis mier organizebul
aqciaze movlen?
_ davelodoT. faqtia, rom
moqalaqeebSi aris samarTliani,
kanonieri, konstituciuri protesti.
sazogadoeba Tavis protests
yovelTvis gamoxatavda da
momavalSic gamoxatavs. vfiqrob,
Cveni dasavleli megobrebis mxardaWeriTa
da monawileobiT
qveyanaSi ganviTardeba is demokratiuli
procesebi da cvlilebebi,
rac qveynis winsvlasa da
evropul momavals ganapirobebs.
„qronika+“-s erT-erTi mozardis
mSobeli daukavSirda. man im
afTiaqis arsebobis Sesaxeb gvacnoba,
romelic fsiqotropul
wamlebs ureceptod hyidis.
_ iqneb, damexmaroT, iqneb, damidgeT
gverdiT? ra gavakeTo?!
Cemi Svili ukve damokidebuli
gaxda fsiqotropul wamlebze.
verafers vSveli, _ arc Cxubma,
arc moferebam ar gaWra, afTiaqis
TanamSromlebi arc ki akvirdebian
asaks, ise yidian wamlebs. ba-
Tumis axalgazrdoba ukve wamaldamokidebulia
da saSinel Sedegs
miviRebT, Tu am yvelafers bolo
ar moeReba! me ukve daviRale!
_ ufro konkretulad, risi
Tqma SegiZliaT, piradad iyaviT
afTiaqSi?
_ diax, Tavad mivedi afTiaqSi,
sadac fsiqotropuli wamlebi
ureceptod iyideboda.
viTxove Semdegi wamlebi: gabagama,
fenzepami, kliferini, diazepami.
es preparatebi ureceptod
arsad iyideba, maT ki Cveulebrivad
momyides, araferi mouTxoviaT.
roca vkiTxe, _ rogor yid-
maSin, roca moxucebs Zlieri
zuka nemsaZe
tkivilgamayuCeblebis sayidlad
recepti sWirdebaT, baTumis cen-
trSi erT-erTi afTiaqi fsiqotropul wamlebs ureceptod
hyidis. wamlebs, romelTa moxmarebac eqimis mier gamowerili
receptis gareSe ar SeiZleba, umetesad, arasrulwlovnebi
moixmaren, afTiaqs isini xSirad stumroben.
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baTumis `magnoliis
binebis~ afTiaqSi
fsiqotropuli wamlebi
ureceptod iyideba
`Svilis sikvdils ukve
ramdenjer Cavxede
TvalebSi?! am ambavSi
baTumis naxevari
axalgazrdobaa CarTuli~
iT am wamlebs ureceptod, roca
es dauSvebelia-meTqi?! maT mipasuxes,
_ Cven amiT vvaWrobTo.
_ ratom ar ganacxadeT Sesabamiss
uwyebaSi da Tu gqondaT
saerTod amis mcdeloba?
_ mindoda maTi CarTva, magram
Semdeg samarTaldamcvelebi Cems
Svils mizanSi amoiRebdnen, rogorc
fsiqotropuli wamlebis
momxmarebels, afTiaqs ki mainc ar
mosTxovdnen pasuxs, daiwyeboda
Cemi Svilis mimarT sadamsjelo
samuSaoebis gatareba, rogorc
xdeba xolme da amitom Tavi Sevikave.
_ sad mdebareobs es afTiaqi?
_ yvelam Zalian kargad icis am
afTiaqis arsebobs Sesaxeb, is pirdapir
baTumis centrSi, „makdonaldsis”
win, e. w. magnoliis binebSia.
„qronika+“ inkognito mSoblis
mier dasaxelebul afTiaqs estumra,
raTa gagverkvia, ramdenad
SevZlebdiT gveyida fsiqotropuli
wamlebi ureceptod
roca vikiTxeT fsiqotropuli
wamali gaba-gama, afTiaqSi gangvicxades,
rom hqondaT da dainteresdnen,
Tu ramdeni abi gvWirdeboda.
magram rogorc ki SeamCnies
Jurnalistis telefoni, romelic
maT saeWvod eCvenaT, imwamsve asaki
da pasporti ikiTxes, Tumca recepti
mainc ar mouTxoviaT.
„qronika+“-ma mokvleva daiwyo
da ramdenimedRiani dakvirvebis
Semdeg erT-erTi axalgazrda Cawera,
romelic afTiaqs xSirad
stumrobs:
„Tavidan uWirdaT, rom moeyidaT,
magram mere afTiaqs xSirad
vstumrobdiT da urec-ptod ki
ara, saerTod aRar gvekiTxebian,
wamlebs pirdapir daxlze gvideben”.
sainteresoa, qalaqis centrSi
mdebare e. w. magnoliis binebis
pirvel sarTulze gaxsnili afTiaqi
rogor rCeba SeumCneveli
sapatrulo policias, romlis
TanamSromlebic am quCebSi xSirad
moZraoben da maTi gansakuTrebuli
dakvirvebis epicentri
swored es adgilebia. sainteresoa,
afTiaqi gaagrZelebs Tu ara
ureceptod fsiqotropuli wamlebis
gayidvas da dainteresdeba
Tu ara sapatrulo policia axalgazrda
moqalaqeebis bediT,
romlebic fsiqotropul wamlebs
yoveldRiurad moixmaren?!
„qronika+“ agrZelebs Temis
Sesaxeb muSaobas da damatebiTi
detalebis arsebobis SemTxveva-
Si viTarebas momdevno nomrebSi
gagacnobT.
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