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sagamoZiebo masalebi gogi wulaiaze
„qronika+~ agrZelebs sagamoZiebo
giga gelxviiZe
masalebis momzadebas politikos gogi
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wulaias saqmis Sesaxeb, romelic 2021
wlis 17 marts qalze Zaladobis
braldebiT daakaves. dakavebas win uZRoda politikosis cnobili
performansi _ amiT man bera ivaniSvilis mier im adamianebis fiz-
ikuri da fsiqologiuri terori gaaprotesta, romlebic oli-
garq biZina ivaniSvilis Svilsa da Tavad oligarqis ojaxze kri-
tikuli feisbuqpostebiT gamoxatavdnen sakuTar azrs.
wulaias saqmeSi mTavari moqmedi
piri asmaT dvaliSvilia,
romelic acxadebs, rom politikoss
masTan mimarTebiT seqsualuri
Zaladobis mcdeloba hqonda.
CvenTvis cnobili gaxda, rom
dvaliSvilisTvis gogi wulaias
saqme ar aris pirveli, sadac is
samarTlebriv davaSi imyofeba.
„qronika+” daukavSirda gogita
gogelaSvils, romlis cxovrebis
garkveuli epizodis usiamovno
mogoneba asmaT dvaliSvils exeba.
swored masTan CavwereT interviu
da gazeTis am nomerSi eqskluziurad
gTavazobT. daskvnebis gamotana
ki TqvenTvis mogvindvia.
aqve gvinda aRvniSnoT, rom
gogita gogelaSvilis azriT, gogi
wulaias saqmeSi politikuri interesi
ikveTeba. swored amitom
man, sanam CvenTan uSualod Temaze
saubars daiwyebda, gvTxova,
mkiTxvelisTvis gangvemarta, rom
is ar aris romelime partiis warmomadgeneli
da ar surs misi es
interviu politikur WrilSi ganvixiloT:
gogita gogelaSvili:
_ ra urTierToba gqondaT
asmaT dvaliSvilTan da rogor
gaicanT is?
_ asmaT dvaliSvili gavicani
2012 wels. mas sakuTari arasamTavrobo
organizacia „progresuli
Taoba” hqonda, romelsac mxolod
erTi konkretuli mimarTuleba
aqvs samxedro kuTxiT. 2016 wels
gaCnda idea, rom es arasamTavrobo
organizacia mravalprofiliani
gamxdariyo. Tavisuflad SegiZliaT
naxoT, Tu vin iyvnen misi
gamgeobis wevrebi im dros organizaciaSi.
piradad Cemi interesi
maSin iyo saarCevno sistemaze
muSaoba, romelic dRemde savalalo
mdgomareobaSia. am mimarTulebiT
daviwyeT muSaoba da amis
damadastureblad mas treningis
sertifikatic ki aqvs, sadac me gavuSvi.
_ Semdeg movlenebi rogor
ganviTarda?
_ ar gamovida is proeqti,
romelic erTad daviwyeT da wamiyena
pretenzia, rom man ver naxa
finansuri sargebeli da momTxova
didi Tanxa, _ 2150 lari. ar
vici, saidan daiTvala da gadawyvita,
rom amxela Tanxa unda gadamexada
misTvis, romelic me im
momentSi ar mqonda. miuxedavad
amisa, gadavwyvite, mas notariusTan
gavyolodi da misi daxmarebiT
werilobiTi saxe migveca dokumentisTvis,
romliTac me Cems
brals vaRiarebdi aRniSnul saqm-
ra kavSiri aqvs asmaT
dvaliSvils soso gogaSvilTan?!
eSi, Tumca mimaCnia, rom es ase ar
aris.
amis Semdeg yvelaferi ganvi-
Tarda katastrofulad: 2018 wlis
5 noembers mirekavs dvaliSvili
da vTanxmdebiT, rom unda SevxvdeT
parlamentis SenobasTan (igulisxmeba
quTaisSi arsebuli parlamentis
Senoba). rogorc ki parlamentTan
mivedi da manqanidan
gadmovedi, asmaT dvaliSvili
fizikurd gamisworda, _ saxeze
dRemde metyoba iara.
im dRes asmaT dvaliSili ar
imyofeboda marto, mas Tan axlda
adamiani, romelTanac garkveuli
saxis urTierToba hqonda. maT
undodaT, rom me fizikurad gavsworebodi
asmaTs, Tumca ver moaxerxes
Cemi am provokaciaze wamogeba.
maSinve davureke saswrafosac
da samarTaldamcvel organoebsac,
ris Semdegac faqtze
mokvleva daiwyo. garkveuli drois
Semdeg Cemi ganacxadi ukan gamovitane,
vinaidan ar mindoda, rom
martoxela deda ufro metad
damezaralebina.
_ Tu gaqvT informacia, rom
dvaliSvils sxvasTanac hqonda
urTierToba da provokaciiT
ucdia Semdeg misi „gaSaveba”?
_ Tuki dainteresdebian, naxon,
saidan da rogor iricxeba mis pirad
angariSebze Tanxebi da Zalian
advilad gaarkveven yvelafers.
_ rogor aRmoCnda asmaT
dvaliSvili opoziciur speqtr-
Si? aqvs Tu ara mas rame saxis
kavSiri sus-Tan?
_ kavSirebi rom aqvs, amas gidasturebT.
araerTi gvari uxsenebia
CemTan saubrisas. magali-
Tad, damamaxsovrda genStabidan
CaCibaia. am incidentamde sami
TviT adre man aseTi ram miTxra:
„damibrune Cemi Tanxa, Torem xom
ici, soso sxvanairi adamianiao”.
Cven gvyavda saerTo megobari soso
da arc ki mifiqria, rom is sxva
vinmes gulismobda, sabolood ki
gairkva, rom dvaliSvils mxedvelobaSi
hyavda maSindeli sus-is
ufrosis pirveli moadgile soso
gogaSvili. dvaliSvilma da misma
damxmareebma gamitexes Cemi piradi
socialuri qseli. rodec mas
vuTxari, rom Cemi feisbuki iyo
gatexili, mirCia, meCivla. SemdgomSi
gavarkvie, rom es yvelaferi
moxda sxva adamianis daxmarebiT
da Tu me viCivlebdi, amiT zaraldeboda
ara realuri damnaSave,
aramed is, vinc dvaliSvilma daixmara.
me erTgvari testic ki gavakeTe:
rodesac asmaTma mkiTxa, vi-
Civle Tu ara, vuTxari, rom mivwere
mas, vinc gamitexa gverdi. dvaliSvlma
ki mipasuxa, rom „ar waukiTxavs”.
es CemTvis sruliad sakmarisi
iyo imis dasamtkiceblad,
rom man yvelaferi icoda.
_ quTaisis parlamentTan mo-
mxdar incidents davubrundeT.
_ rodesac parlamentTan is incidenti
moxda, romelzedac ukve
gesaubreT, asmaTis Tanmxlebma
pirma miTxra: „asmaTi uSiSroeba ki
ar aris, is samxedro uSiSroebaa”.
„qronika+~ agrZelebs politikos
gogi wulaias saqmeze damate-
biTi masalebisa da eqskluziuri
informaciis mopovebas, romelsac
Tanmimdevrulad SemogTava-
zebT.
`mogonebebi gardasul dReTa~ _ ra
saidumloebas malavs asmaT dvaliSvili?!
mas Semdeg, rac cnobili gaxda, rom asmaT dval-
giga gelxviiZe
iSvili politikos gogi wulaias seqsualuri Zal-
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adobis mcdelobaSi sdebs brals, sazogadoebaSi aq-
tiurad musirebs azri, rom es dvaliSvilis mier
kargad dadgmuli speqtaklia, vindaidan is araerTxel aris SemCneuli msgavss
qmedebebSi. „qronika+~-s Teona Zigua daukavSirda, romelic dvaliSvilTan
axlo urTierTobaSi iyo maSin, rodesac dvaliSvili jer kidev daqorwinebuli
iyo mis naTesavze. Zigua dvaliSvilis cxovrebidan Zalze saintereso de-
talebs gviyveba da aqve acxadebs, rom mas ar sjera im informaciis, rac bolo
dros wulaiasa da dvaliSvilis saqmis Sesaxeb vrceldeba.
Teona Zigua:
_ rogorc ki eg informacia gavrcelda,
maSinve vTqvi da sajarodac davwere: _ asmaTi
iyo magis gamkeTebeli, es aris 1000%-
iani. aq Tanxazec araa saubari, aramed nebismier
rameze. ai, magaliTad, viRac mamakacic
rom moswoneboda da imas eTqva, _ Cven
urTierToba gveqneba xangrZlivad da Sen
eg saqme gaakeTeo, _ eg wamsvleli iyo amaze.
_ ra informacias flobT asmaT dval-
iSvilze?
_ asmaT dvaliSvili aris Cemi dedamTlis
rZali, konkretulad ki biZaSvilis
coli. masTan normaluri urTierToba
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mqonda manamde, sanam misi realuri saxe ar
davinaxe. erT dRes damireka da miTxra, rom
TqvenTan stumrad mosvlas vapirebo. Zalian
gamexarda. maxsovs, bavSvTan erTad movida
da cota xnis Semdeg mTxova, bavSvi
dametovebina, radganac saqmeze iyo gasasvleli.
_ aranairi problema ar aris-meTqi.
davitove bavSvi, saRamos gvian dabrunda da
bavSvi waiyvana. am ambidan saeWvo (amaze mere
davfiqrdi) is iyo, rom stumrad zustad
maSin movida, rodesac Cemi dedamTili Sin
ar imyofeboda. amis Semdeg Zalian damiaxlovda
da simarTle giTxraT, raRac eWvi
mRrRnida, bolo periodi Zalian gaaqtiurda
CemTan mimarTebiT. garkveuli periodis
Semdeg ki aRmovaCine, rom Cems deidaSvilTan
hqonda urTierToba, romelsac ojaxi
hyavda. rodesac bavSvs mitovebda, Cems deidaSvilTan
erTad mis kuTvnil binaSi midioda.
Cemi eWvebis gasamyareblad deidaSvilis
telefoni aviRe, sadac misi da asma-
Tis mimowerebi vnaxe, Tu rogor saubrobdnen
detalurad erTad gatarebul dReebze
da rogor uyveboda asmaTi, rom me magoimebda
da bavSvs mitovebda, TiTqosda
saqmeze gadioda.
_ rogor ganviTarda movlenebi?
_ me davemuqre dvaliSvils aRniSnuli
mimowerebis gasajaroebiT, Tumca man patieba
mTxova da amixsna, rom yvelaferi
damTavrda da ar undoda ojaxis dangreva.
qali, romelic sxvis ojaxs xelaRebiT
angrevs, ar gamovricxav, rom SemxeblobaSi
iyos Tanamdebobis pirebTan.
aris erTi ojaxi, romelic daangria,
isinic cxovroben sofelSi. SemiZlia, saxeli
da gvaric vTqva, es aris Tea boWoriSvilis
ojaxi. faqti moxda maSin, rodesac
asmaTs qmari hyavda. zafxulobiT stumrad
Camodiodnen sofelSi, swored maSin hqonda
urTierToba mis meuRlesTan.
Semdeg iyo aseTi situacia: qmari rom
Camovida moskovidan, ubanSi sufra gaiSala,
maSin pirdapir uTxres, rom Seni coli
aseT raRacebs akeTebso.
me asmaTs vuTxari, _ mova dro da Sen
niRabs moixsni, es arc pirveli iqneba da
arc ukanaskneli-meTqi. ojaxi pikze miiyvana,
rom dangreuliyo. Tavad araerTi sxvisi
ojaxi aqvs dangreuli. Cems deidaSvilsac
aSantaJebda masTan gadaRebuli fotoebiT,Sens
meuRles vaCveneb Tu mimatovebo,
axla gogi wulaias jeri dadga, darwmunebuli
var rom man es provokacia winaswar
dagegma da rogorc ki saSualeba mieca ganaxorciela.
„qronika+~-is redaqciaSi msgavsi saxis
Setyobinebebi da informaciebi ar aris
pirveli. mas Semdeg, rac politikos gogi
wulaias ambiT aqtiurad davinteresdiT,
araerTi adamiani gvirekavs da gvTxovs,
rom movyveT mis Sesaxebac, Tu rogor
daungria cxovreba asmaT dvaliSvilma.
mokled, asmaT dvaliSvilis „gardasul
dReTa” ambebs araerTxel davubrundebiT.
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