qronika+337

ras erCoda policia aqtivistebs?
ram gaaRiziana gia vol-
ski? ramdenad adekvaturi iyo
xelisuflebis reaqcia deputatis
uzrdelobaze? ras hpirde-
ba mas samoqalaqo seqtori? _ am
Temebis Sesaxeb dimitri biZinaS-
vili „qronika+”-s esaubreba:
_ dimitri, 2 aprils „qarTuli
ocnebis” erT-erTma liderma
samoqalaqo aqtivistebs ux-
amsi Jesti gaCvenaT. amas Tqveni
mxridan protesti mohyva. am
protestis gamo policiam 12
aqtivisti daakava. mogvianebiT,
gia volskim ganmarta, uzrde-
loba gulSic ki ar gamivlia,
nervis anTeba mawuxebs da elas-
tikuri binti Sevisworeo.
_ es aris samarcxvino gancxadeba!
sanam volski Tavis gamamarTlebel
arguments moifiqrebda,
mamuka mdinaraZem ganmartebebi
gaakeTa. man Tqva, volskis
sqcieli mosawoni ar aris, magram
damnaSaveebi mainc samoqalaqo
aqtivistebi ariano. anu mdinaraZem
aRiara, rom volskim iuzrdela.
_ es „ocnebis” axalma saxe
nikoloz samxaraZemac aRiara.
isic Tqven gadanaSaulebT, rom
volskim uzrdelurad iqnia xe-
lebi.
_ Tavidan aRiares, rom volskim
iuzrdela da mere Seecadnen,
firfita SeecvalaT, radganac
dainaxes, rom volskis uzrdelobas
sazogadoebis mxridan
didi protesti mohyva. gia volski
aris arSemdgari Zveli biWi.
is gaxlavT komunisti, romelic
cekas instruqtorad muSaobda.
am adamianisgan aseTi uzrdeloba
ar mikvirs. piriqiT, movelodi
kidevac, rom raRac msgavss
Caidenda.
_ ratom elodiT, rom aseT
rames Caidenda?
_ imitom, rom Cven misi da
„ocnebis” sayvareli okupantebi
gavyareT saqarTvelodan. rogor
ggoniaT, „qarTuli ocneba” poznerisa
da misi amalis gaZevebas
ase iolad gadaitanda? pirdapir
amas ukavSirdeba volskis es reaqcia.
Cven aqamdec araerTxel mogviwyvia
aqcia „qarTuli ocnebis”
ofisTan, dagvistvenia sastvenebiT,
maT Soris, volskisTvisac,
magram is arasdros gadmosula
manqanidan. axla mZRols
demonstraciulad gaaCerebina
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`TalakvaZis poeziaze gazrdili
1994 wlis msoflio Cempionatze
Sorena marsagiSvili
germaniis safexburTo nakrebis
599 92 16 22
mTavarma mwvrTnelma Stefan efen-
bergi nakrebidan mokveTa. da es
imis gamo gaakeTa, rom efenbergma mayurebels, romelic mas
aginebda, Sua TiTi uCvena. mwvrTnelma Tavisi gadawyvetileba
imiT axsna, rom fexburTelma upativcemuloba gamoiCina im
mayureblis mimarT, romelmac Tavisi sayvareli nakrebis Tama-
Sis sayureblad fuli gadaixada. warmoidgineT, ra moxdeboda
germaniaSi, iqauri parlamentis wevrs samoqalaqo aqtivistebi-
sTvis amgvari JestiT rom miemarTa. mas, ubralod, politikurad
gaanadgurebdnen. Cvens SemTxvevaSi ki saqme sxvagvar-
ad aris. imis magivrad, rom uxamsi Jestis maCvenebeli gia vol-
skis gawveva moeTxovaT parlamentidan, „qarTulma ocnebam” misi
gamarTleba daiwyo. policiam is samoqalaqo aqtivistebi daaka-
va, romlebsac volskim uzrdeluri Jesti uCvena. dakavebulTa
Soris iyo moZraoba „Secvales” lideri dimitri biZinaSvilic.
dimitri biZinaSvili:
`arSemdgar Zvel
biW volskis
uzrdelobas
aRar gavutarebT~
manqana, gadmovida da SviliSvilis
tola bavSvebs es Jesti aCvena.
amiT is Zalian amayi iyo.
_ ratom fiqrobT, rom amayi
iyo?
_ am Jestis Cvenebis Semdeg
bednieri da gabrwyinebuli saxiT
Sevida avtosadgomze. rogorc
ukve giTxariT, Cven „ocnebis”
ofisTan aqamdec dagvistvenia,
magram volski arasdros
gadmosula manqanidan. axla gadmovida,
radgan pozneris gagdebis
gamo gaRizianebuli iyo. pozneris
aq SemoSveba gavrilovis
provokaciis identuria. qarTul
sazogadoebas amaze adekvaturi
reaqcia hqonda. am reaqciam okupantebi
aiZula, ukan gabrunebuliyvnen.
aman „qarTuli ocneba”
Zalian gaabraza. „qarTul ocnebaze”
Cvenc Zalian gabrazebuli
viyaviT da amitom mivediT maT
ofisTan. aseTi rameebis gatareba
da gamarTleba ar SeiZleba.
okupirebuli afxazeTidan gadmosul
qarTvelebs 5-dRian karantinSi
svamen. 21:00 saaTis Semdeg
Cvens moqalaqeebs saxlidan
cxviris gamoyofas ukrZalaven.
am dros ruseTidan Camosul ramdenime
aTeul adamians yovelgvari
karantinis gareSe uSveben
qveyanaSi da komendantis saaTis
dros eskortiT daabrZaneben
aqeT-iqiT, mihyavT restoranSi,
aqeifeben, elarjs uwelaven. gia
volski, Turme, Zalian gaRizianda,
es usamarTloba rom gavaprotesteT.
gia volski marTla arSemdgari
Zveli biWi da cekas instruqtori
Tu ar aris, imaze unda
gaRizianebuliyo, xurvaleTeli
daTa papas samZimarze rom ver
mivediT. Cven ki ara, gardacvlilis
SviliSvilic ki ar gadauSves
mavTulxlarTis iqiT, rom
babua ukanasknel gzaze gaecilebina.
voslkis Tu hgonia, rom Tavisi
JestiT vinme SeaSina, Zalian
cdeba. amis mere arSemdgar Zvel
biWs kidev ufro sakadrisad davxvdebiT.
sadac vnaxavT, iq miiRebs
Sesabamiss pasuxs. tipi arc
Zveli biWia, arc politikosia,
erTi Cveulebrivi ruseTumea,
romelic qarTveli xalxis reaqciiT
gaRizianda. misic mesmis,
pozneri da misi Tanmxlebi pirebi
xom realurad „ocnebis” Tanagundelebi
arian.
arSemdgari Zveli biWis uzrdelobas
sazogadoebaSi Zalian
mkveTri reaqcia mohyva. am ruse-
Tumes bodiSis moxdac ar unda
da axla gaiZaxis, rom Turme
elastikur bints isworebda,
radgan raRac awuxebs. kargad
vici, rac awuxebs. awuxebs is, rom
qarTveli xalxi aq russ okupantebs
Tavisuflad aRar aparpaSebs.
mis qmedebaze komentaris
gakeTebac miWirs. aseTi qmedeba,
ubralod, warmoudgenelia.
_ ratom aris warmoudgene-
li? 2019 wlis noemberSi, im
dRes, roca umravlesobam sakonstitucio
cvlilebebi Caag-
do, parlamentTan Sekrebil
xalxs kalaZem Sua TiTi ar aCve-
na? amgvari Jestebis ena, etyoba,
„ocnebaSi” Cveulebrivi amba-
via.
_ ki batono, es maTi mentalobis
nawilia. didi zrdilobiT
arc kaxa kalaZe gamoirCeva. ra
hgoniaT an kalaZes an volskis,
rom am JestebiT aqtivistebsa da
sazogadoebas SeaSineben? Zalian
cdebian.
_ patara xar da ar gemaxsovreba
es ambavi: 1994 wlis msof-
lio Cempionatze germaniis na-
krebidan mokveTes Stefan efen-
bergi, romelmac mayurebels
Sua TiTi aCvena. mis dasacavad
Tavi aravis gamoudevs, volskis
dasacavad ki mTeli „qarTuli
ocneba” dairazma.
_ Stefan efenbergi imitom
mokveTes nakrebidan, rom germania
evropuli qveyanaa, sadac
xalxis Seuracxyofa aravis epatieba.
Cven is ver movaxerxeT,
rom dasavluri relsebidan
rusul relsebze gadasvla SegveCerebina.
ruseTisken aris gezi
aRebuli. ruseTsa da mis msgavss
qveynebSi aseTi gadawyvetilebebis
miReba cota rTulia.
_ ratom ggoniaT, rom ver
vaCerebT rusul relsebze ga-
dasvlis process? 31 martis
aqcia imis naTeli magaliTi iyo,
rom saqarTvelosa da mis axal-
gazrdobas ar surs, qveyana
CrdiloeTisken mimaval gzas
daadges.
_ Cven, sazogadoeba, arc arasdros
gadavalT rusul relsebze.
am SemTxvevaSi saxelisuflebo
kastas vgulisxmob. aq mmarTv-
`sanam volski Tavis gamamarTlebel arguments
moifiqrebda, mamuka mdinaraZem ganmartebebi
gaakeTa. man Tqva, volskis sqcieli mosawoni
ar aris, magram damnaSaveebi mainc
samoqalaqo aqtivistebi ariano. anu
mdinaraZem aRiara, rom volskim iuzrdela~
eloba aris sufTa rusuli stilis.
sazogadoebac rom rusul
yaidaze gadaewyos, kalaZe da
volski ase uzrdelurad ki ar
daiwyeben xelebis qnevas. kargad
daimaxsovron „qarTuli ocnebis”
liderebma: maT swored samoqalaqo
sazogadoeba agebinebs
pasuxs imis gamo, rom es qveyana
daaqcies!
_ yofili premieri giorgi
kvirikaSvili da ekonomikis yo-
fili ministri giorgi qobulia,
erTi SexedviT, am xelisufleb-
is winaaRmdegni arian. 31 marts
mowyobili aqcia orive maTganma
daiwuna. acxadeben, es turistebs
dagvakargvinebs da qveyanas
daazaralebso. am adami-
anebs ras etyodiT?
_ ra komentari unda gavakeTo
kvirikaSvilze? ra uflebiT gvmoZRvravs,
turistebi aRar movlen
da xalxi gaRatakdebao? Zalian
sasaciloa, rodesac xalxis
gaRatakebaze nerveulobs is
kaci, romelic xalxis gaRatakebis
gamo gaagdo ivaniSvilma premierobidan.
raRac ar maxsendeba,
rom maSin amaze kvirikaSvils
ganmarteba gaekeTebina. man imis
Tqmac ki ver gabeda, xalxi da
qveyana ar gamiRatakebiao.
_ kvirikaSvilze vsaubrobT
da arc is 700 milioni unda
daviviwyoT, misi premierobis
dros rom gaqra biujetidan.
_ ratom unda daviviwyoT? es
700 milioni man da dimitri qumsiSvilma
gaaqres. amaze prokuraturamac
ki aRZra saqme. saqme
aRZres imitom, rom biZina ivaniSvilis
garemocvasTan ar miitanes
wili. kvirikaSvili da misi msgavsi
adamianebi dRemde „qarTul
ocnebasa” da oligarqze arian
Camokidebuli. xalxi gaaRatakes,
qveynis biujeti gaZarcves da
axla stumar-maspinZlobas gviwuneben.
gveubnebian, _ mteri,
romelic ambobs, rom afxazeTi
arasdros iqneba saqarTvelo,
Turme taSfanduriT unda mivi-
RoT. mtris winaSe cekva-TamaSs
Tu normalurad miiCneven, amieridan
Tavad daxvdnen pozneris
msgavss tipebs, ucekvon da
SemdegSi okupantebTan erTad
gavyriT maT qveynidan.
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