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daTvis im tyviebis srola, romelic

2019 wlis 20 ivniss ukve

vnaxeT. ise, poznerebi da davidoviCebi

saqarTveloSi elarjis

saWmelad ar Camosulan,

miT umetes, rom moskovSi 200

qarTuli restorania. amiT Sei-

Zleba, mxolod bavSvebi moatyuon!

_ batono kote, rusul nar-

ativze ar visaubroT, radgan

viRac aucileblad gagaxsen-

ebT, is kote kemularia ar

xarT, „vardebis revoluciis”

dros moskovSi rom waxvedi-

To?

_ ki batono, gamaxsenon!

adrec miTqvams da axlac gavimeoreb:

Cemi qveynis interesebis

sasargeblod wavedi, mixeil

saakaSvilTan SeTnxmebiTa da

misi uSualo gegmiT.

mokled, imiT, risTvisac

wavedi, axlac vamayob, sicocxlis

bolomdec viamayeb da

SviliSvilebsac movuyvebi!

moskovSic unda wavideT,

moskoveli diplomatebi aqac

unda Camovidnen da amas versad

gaveqceviT, radgan ruseTi Cveni

mezobelia, Tanac uzarmazari

mezobeli!

_ ruseTi damyrobeli mezo-

belia, kote batono!

_ aq laparakia Cumad molaparakebasa

da erTi adgilis

saSinel pozaSi daxvedrebaze.

sxvaTa Soris, Tavis droze,

gavrilovi gulwrfelad gabrazda,

_ kaco, sami Tve mexvewebodiT,

Camodio da es ra miqeni-

To? poznersac, daaxloebiT,

aseTi saxe hqonda... danamdvilebiT

viciT, rom pozneri

prezident salome zurabiSvils

unda Sexvedroda.

_ es raze mianiSnebs?

_ poznerisTvis sxva raRacebic

iyo momzadebuli, magram

samoqalaqo seqtoris Zalian

seriozulma aqtivobam yvelaferi

CaSala. xom naxeT, viola

fon kraunma ra Tqva, _ yvelaferi

es saSineli sanaxavi

iyoo. xalxi gamoketilia, mcire

biznesi ver muSaobs, 9 saaTis

mere erTmaneTTan ver mivsulvarT

da am dros „ÔÑÁ”-s razmi

da putinis uaxloesi adamianebi

aq beno qaSakaSvilis restoranSi

qeifoben! aq raze unda

vilaparakoT an saxelmwifo interesebi

sad aris?

_ CvenSi darCes da, veRar

gavige, es beno qaSakaSvili biznesmenia

Tu koronis dis-

tributori _ SarSan, albaT,

gaxsovT, romanovebs samgloviaro

sufra gauSala da... ko-

ronamac ifeTqa...

_ ki batono, swored maqedan

daiwyo da axla dazRveulebi

varT? _ koronis mxriv moskovsa

da, saerTod, mTel ruseT-

Si Zalian mZime mdgomareobaa.

am xalxs ki arc karantini gauvlia

da arc vinmes Seumowmebia.

Tqves, 42-dan 31 davajarimeTo,

e. i., dasajarimeblebi yofilan,

roca Tavidan amtkicebdnen,

kanoni ar daurRveviaTo.

_ sxvaTa Soris, pozneri da

misi amalis wevrebi saqarTve-

los xelisuflebam mxolod

mas Semdeg daajarima, rac maT

saqarTvelos sazRvrebi da-

toves...

_ Se mamacxonebulo, sanam

elene xoStaria ar mogadga, Sss

rom xar da specsamsaxuri, es

xalxi ratom ar daajarime da,

saerTod, ratom gamoatare?

_ ise, irakli kobaxiZem

elene xoStarias misamarTiT

ikiTxa, winmswrebad saidan gaigo,

pozneri TbilisSi rom Cam-

odiodao? anu amiT „ocnebis”

Tavmjdomarem imaze mianiSa, ai,

rusebTan kolaboraciaSi opo-

ziciaao. mmarTvelma gundma,

Tavis droze, gavrilovzec ig-

ive narativis gatareba scada...

_ informacia, ra Tqma unda,

Signidan Jonavs. ai, gaxaria gadadga,

maWavarianic gadadga da

cqitiSvilic...

_ saubari saiTken migyavT,

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Seqmna araseriozulia~

`poznerebi da davidoviCebi saqarTveloSi elarjis saWmelad ar Camosulan,

miT umetes, rom moskovSi 200 qarTuli restorania. amiT SeiZleba, mxolod

bavSvebi moatyuon!~

batono kote?

_ SigniT iseTi ambavia, opozicias

Tavi rom moawonon, informaciis

mTeli niaRvari

modis! saerTod, roca xelisufleba

da partia moryeulia,

aseTi raRacebi gasakviri ar

aris da, ra Tqma unda, poznerzec

informacia viRacam miawoda.

ise, rom icodeT, informacia

mTlian programaze arsebobda.

_ e. i., gemi iZireba da „oc-

nebidan” gaqcevaze arian?

_ diax, gaqcevaze Zalian bevria.

_ Tqvens xelT arsebuli mo-

nacemebiT, uaxloes momavalSi

„ocnebas” vin datovebs, kaxa

kalaZe?

_ kalaZe ukve gamijnulia da

masze aRar vilaparakoT.

_ aba, visze vilaparakoT?

_ raionebsa da regionebSi

„ocnebis” wevrebi sakrebuloebidan

garbian. axla mTavari gax-

`gulwrfelad rom giTxraT, ivaniSvils

arafris Tavi aRar aqvs! amitom gaxariam

Tavidanve unda dasvas sakiTxi, rom

ivaniSvilisgan gamijnulia, Torem jer `biZina 1"

ra aris da warmoidgineT, `biZina 2" ra iqneba~

arias Temaa, anu quCaSi „ocnebis”

momxreebidan aTidan Svidi

adamiani imaze laparakobs, rom

gaxaria axal partias qmnis.

gaxariasgan arsena marabdelis

Seqmna araseriozuli mgonia,

magram „ocnebis” xalxs

imaze meti salaparako aRar

aqvs, Tu ras apirebs gaxaria.

_ isic gagebuli geqnebaT,

rom amboben, gaxariasgan „oc-

neba 2"-s ivaniSvili qmniso...

_ gulwrfelad rom

giTxraT, ivaniSvils arafris

Tavi aRar aqvs! amitom gaxariam

Tavidanve unda dasvas sakiTxi,

rom ivaniSvilisgan gamijnulia,

Torem jer „biZina 1"

ra aris da warmoidgineT, „biZina

2" ra iqneba.

_ mainc, ra iqneba?

_ „biZina 2" is buSti iqneba,

romelic Zalian male gaskdeba!

_ ratom?

_ „biZina 2"-is ukan arc

evropa dadgeba da arc _ aSS.

amitom mis ukan ruseTi unda

dadges, magram vikiTxoT...

_ ra vikiTxoT?

_ pozners jer epatiJebian,

mere ki ver icaven.

_ ukacravad, es ra SuaSia?

_ is, rac pozners TbilisSi

gaukeTes, mxolod peskovsa da

putinis garemocvas ar moewona,

Torem mTel rusul qseleb-

Si qarTvelebze weren, _ Tqven

genacvaleT, es saeWvo delegacia

Tbilisidan rom gamoapan-

RureTo.

mokled, aseTi ganwyoba aqvT

rusebs, romlebic realuri

turistebi arian da romlebsac

aravin erCis!

saerTod, rigiTi adamianebi

arasodes araferSi damnaSaveni

ar arian da es cnobili postulatia.

oligarqi romeli turistia?

oligarqia da turizmi

vis gaugia?

_ geTanxmebiT... batono

kote, weRan evrodeputatebis

gancxadebaze vsaubrobdiT,

romelSic ori mTavari mesijia

_ saqarTvelo-evrokavSiris

urTierTobis safrTxe da finansuri

sanqciebi. Tu dasavle-

Ti finansur daxmarebas Segviwyvets,

es imis tolfasi iqne-

ba, rom ukan, 90-ian wlebSi

davbrundebiT?

_ bolo 30 wlis ganmavloba-

Si „ocneba” pirveli mTavrobaa,

romlis drosac sanqciebis

Tema Tundac sajarod pirvelad

gaisma! amas xom „miRweva”

undoda?

Cven aRmosavleT partniorobis

_ evronestis wevrebi varT

da am gancxadebaze erT-erTi

xelmomweri swored evronestis

Tavmjdomarea, Tumca „ocnebas”

es ecotava. arada, dRevandel

evropul politikas swored es

adamianebi warmarTaven, Tumca

„ocnebas” amdeni ar esmis!

sanqciebis SemTxvevaSi dartymis

qveS 52 milioni evro dadgeba,

romelic evropis mier

Cveni soflis murneobis ganvi-

TarebisTvisaa gamoyofili. amxela

Tanxa safrTxis qveS rom

dadgeba, „ocnebam” xalxs ra

unda uyos?

_ e. i., SimSiloba da xalxis

quCaSi gamosvla gardauvalia?

_ Cven ukve vSimSilobT, magram

qarTveli kaci quCaSi imis

gamo arasodes gamova, mSiao,

Tumca saxelmwifoebriv da

erovnul sakiTxs aucileblad

ipovis, ris gamoc quCaSi gava da

politika, miT umetes, opozicia,

aRarafer SuaSi iqneba! yvelaze

Zalian swored es umar-

Tavi procesi maSinebs, Torem

weRandeli Tqmisa ar iyos, es

dapirispireba opozicias xelisuflebaSi

ar moiyvans!

sxvaTa Soris, aseT SemTxvevaSi,

xelisuflebaSi verc

„qarTuli ocneba” darCeba!

_ aba, marTvis sadaveebs vin

aiRebs?

_ es aravin icis... kitovani

gavixsenoT.

_ ukacravad, kitovani raRa

SuaSia?

_ kitovani xelisuflebaSi

darCa?

revolucia imas Wams, vinc am

revolucias awyobs da es Cveulebrivi

ambavia. safrangeTSic

ase iyo, germaniaSi da yvelgan.

opoziciaSi Zalian Wkviani

adamianebi arian da kargad

ician, rom saqme aqamde ar unda

mivides... ise, Tu gaxsovT, ramdenime

Tvis win erT-erT interviuSi

aprili da aSS-c vaxsene.

_ diax, maxsovs es interviu

da ai, ukve aprilia.

_ hoda, aprilSi an maisis

dasawyisSi aSS-is seriozuli

gaaqtiurebis mowmeni gavxdebiT!

es procesebi ukrainaSi ukve dawyebulia.

mokled, xelisufleba-

Si azrze ar arian, movlenebi

rogor ganviTardeba da samwuxarod,

bevrma sxvamac ar icis!

_ mTeli am politikuri

ajafsandalis bolo vadamde-

li arCevnebi iqneba?

_ aucileblad!

_ wels?

_ diax, situacia rac damZimdeba,

vadamdeli arCevnebi miT

ufro gadaudebeli aucilebloba

gaxdeba!

_ mainc, rodis?

_ wels, Semodgomaze.

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