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THE EARLY AGE OF GREECE VOL.I by W.Ridgeway 1901

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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WHO WERE <strong>THE</strong> MAKERS? 109<br />

1184 B.C. Perseus therefore flourished about 1300 R.c. But<br />

he had overthrown Megapenthes, the son and successor of<br />

Proetus king of Tiryns, whose fioruit may therefore be placed<br />

about 18o0 H.L". Proetus was third in descent from Danaus,<br />

whose date therefore falls about 1450 B.C.<br />

Again, the evidence derived from the Egyptian sources<br />

indicates that the fully developed Mycenean period coincides<br />

with that of the xviilth Dynasty (loOO 1100 Kc). But the<br />

coming of Danaus and the Achean concjuest both fall within<br />

this period.<br />

The traditional chronology therefore coincides<br />

in a remarkable dei^ree with that of the pure archaeologists,<br />

who have arrived at their conclusion independently of all<br />

tradition, which most of them hold in utter contempt.<br />

That the date assigned to the expedition known as the<br />

siege of Troy cannot be much later than 1184 B.C. is rendered<br />

probable <strong>by</strong> the fact that the Iliad and Odijsseij<br />

show no<br />

kn(jwledge of the Dorian invasion, or of any Greek colonies in<br />

Ionia, for ]\Iiletus. which was in later days to be the ([ueen<br />

of b)nia in the Catalogue' of Shi])s,<br />

is still a city of the<br />

'barbarous-speaking Carians.' Again, there is no ti'uci' oi' any<br />

Achean settlements in Italy or Sicily. In the face of theso<br />

considerations it is hard t wc just ihcd<br />

110 WHO WERE <strong>THE</strong> MAKERS?<br />

in considering the Spartan or the Phaeacian palace Achean ?<br />

Menelaus occupies that at Sparta in virtue of his marriage with<br />

Helen, the daughter of Tyndareus. There was a very ancient<br />

dynasty there of which Tyndareus was the last king. This<br />

dynasty can be shown from the ancient pedigrees to be not<br />

Achean.<br />

That the ancient genealogies may be used for questions<br />

of race was the opinion of Niebuhr. Such pedigrees can be<br />

easily remembered and transmitted, a.s amongst the chieftain<br />

families of all countries they are held of supreme importance.<br />

If Homer is sufficient as a witness, it was so in early Greece.<br />

There are constant recitations of pedigrees in the Poems and<br />

;<br />

further, that<br />

such were part of the lore imparted <strong>by</strong> the elders<br />

to the younger,<br />

is shown <strong>by</strong> the words of Nestor, who tells<br />

how Tydeus had discoursed to him<br />

irdvrwv Apyelcov ^peoiv yevti'iv re tokov re^<br />

We may therefore reasonably take as a fair piece of evidence<br />

for race the pedigree of Tyndareus. He was the son of Oebalus<br />

and Gorgophone. Gorgt)ph()ne was the daughter of Perseus,<br />

who was the son of Danae, who was the daughter of Acrisius,<br />

.<br />

whose Pelasgian pedigree we have already proved. Oebalus was<br />

the son of C^'nortas, who was the son of Amyelas, who was the<br />

son of Lacedaemon, who was the son of Zeus. Tyndareus is<br />

thus descended on the father's side from the autochthonous<br />

founders of Lacedaemon and Amyclae without any .suspicion of<br />

any sti-ain of the blood of the new Acheans, the sons of<br />

Xuthus, the son of HcUen, that king of Thcssaly from whom<br />

the Acheans traced their descent.<br />

We may therefore reasonably conclude that thi' palace<br />

at S})ai'ta ()ccu|)ic(l <strong>by</strong> Menelaus and Hi'K'U, where Tcleniachus<br />

visited them, was the ancient residence of Tyndareus and the<br />

old kings of Sparta. That it was more sjik'iidid than the usual<br />

residence of an Achean chief is certain from the words in<br />

which the poet describes the wonder and adniiralion that<br />

tilled Telemachus and his comrade Nestor's son.<br />

If it be said that it was because of the great wealth and rich<br />

'<br />

//. VII. 12H.

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