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have been in Europe. He was a<br />

sensational idol in Bolivia. Every<br />

Sunday after each match, they<br />

carried him shoulder high about<br />

20 blocks from the stadium until<br />

Murillo Square, one block from the<br />

Government Palace. The people<br />

used to invite him to have dinner<br />

in their homes…<br />

What is the following saga<br />

of your life been like?, since<br />

that is what it really was.<br />

In 1961, I had a beautiful<br />

experience. Always Ready, another<br />

club of La Paz, made a long tour<br />

along Europe, and they took me<br />

with them as a kind of reinforcement.<br />

I went with a lot of<br />

youngsters, since the Bolivian great<br />

players were unable to travel,<br />

because the tour did not pay them<br />

and the older ones had to take<br />

money to their homes. We played<br />

in 11 countries, England, Scotland,<br />

France, Germany, Switzerland,<br />

Belgium, Denmark, Romania,<br />

Greece, Spain, Bulgaria… We<br />

played 27 matches, almost all of<br />

them against important teams; I<br />

remember the one we played<br />

against Belgium’s Anderlecht<br />

when we tied 3-3. As to myself,<br />

only 17 years old, I was the<br />

youngest of the delegation.<br />

An unforgettable<br />

memory!<br />

Of course, it was sensational.<br />

As to learning, it was excellent for<br />

100●CSF<br />

El plantel campeón<br />

Antonio AGUIRRE<br />

Máximo ALCÓCER<br />

Abdul ARAMAYO<br />

Ramiro BLACUT<br />

Roberto CAINZO<br />

Wilfredo CAMACHO<br />

Carlos CÁRDENAS<br />

Fortunato CASTILLO<br />

Eduardo ESPINOZA<br />

Ausberto GARCÍA<br />

Jesús HERBAS<br />

Arturo LÓPEZ<br />

Renán LÓPEZ<br />

Hugo PALENQUE<br />

Edgar QUINTEROS<br />

Max RAMÍREZ<br />

Alfredo TORRES<br />

Eulogio VARGAS<br />

Víctor Agustín UGARTE<br />

Mario ZABALAGA<br />

DT: Danilo ALVIM<br />

we had to confront big teams.<br />

We played on Wednesdays and<br />

we travelled in bus, train, airplane<br />

or whatever. We never trained<br />

because we did not have time. It<br />

lasted 4 months and we were<br />

close to Russia, but we had to<br />

return, we were tired and had<br />

no more money.<br />

You were telling me that<br />

this tour was some sort of<br />

preparation for the Team to<br />

the 1963 Copa América.<br />

Certainly it was. They took<br />

Máximo Alcócer, Renán López,<br />

Zabalaga from Wilstermann;<br />

Eduardo Espinoza from Always<br />

Ready, and myself from Bolívar. We<br />

were all champions after 1963.<br />

As a good native of La Paz, he<br />

speaks like the people of the high<br />

plateau, dragging the “s,s,s,”<br />

pronouncing clearly and slowly.<br />

I came back from the tour<br />

and I played half a year in Bolívar.<br />

At 18 years of age, I played in<br />

Argentina´s Ferro Carril Oeste. That<br />

was in 1962. I went to play and<br />

study and I got my title as<br />

Max Ramírez, en esa copa zaguero<br />

central, y Camacho, mediocampista<br />

y capitán, entran al campo de juego.<br />

Izquierda: el Dr. Leoz condecora a<br />

Ramiro Blacut. Completan la escena<br />

Julio Grondona y Jorge Burruchaga.<br />

Max Ramírez, a central back in that<br />

Cup and Camacho, captain and<br />

midfielders enter the field of play.<br />

On the left: Dr. Leoz decorates<br />

Ramiro Blacut accompanied by Julio<br />

Grondona and Jorge Burruchaga.<br />

Bachelor. There I had Garabal;<br />

Marrapodi, Etchevest, Ribaudo as<br />

teammates and afterwards we<br />

were Champions of America with<br />

Estudiantes…<br />

You were getting to<br />

the Copa América, at the<br />

beginning of 1963…<br />

You’re right. I went back to<br />

La Paz and the National Team was<br />

getting ready. I was incorporated<br />

by Christmas or the New Year… I<br />

was 19 years old in January and<br />

the Cup was played in March. I<br />

played it with only 19 years of<br />

age! I was the youngest footballer<br />

of the competition.<br />

Let’s pass the Cup for a<br />

moment, was it from there<br />

that you went to play in<br />

Germany?<br />

No, I went to study. When the<br />

Cup finished, I played a few more<br />

months in Bolívar while I waited

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