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Student Experiences of the Leaving Certificate Applied Programme

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80 ENGAGING YOUNG PEOPLE?o<strong>the</strong>r <strong>Leaving</strong> <strong>Certificate</strong> classes as <strong>the</strong>y were mixed toge<strong>the</strong>r for assembliesand sport events:We were with <strong>the</strong>m going up. … You’d be going on <strong>the</strong> same breaks as <strong>the</strong>mstill, no, live near most <strong>the</strong>m anyway so, <strong>the</strong>re was always, still hang around with<strong>the</strong>m, you know, so … sure everyone would be still <strong>the</strong> same. Yeah, <strong>the</strong>re wasnever any divide or anything like that, no, no never. Sure a sports day and stufflike that or awards ceremonies in <strong>the</strong> hall, <strong>the</strong> school hall, you’d be all <strong>the</strong> sameso. (Andrew, 21, completed LCA, apprentice)I still hung around, because my best friend was in normal <strong>Leaving</strong> Cert so we stillhung around every lunchtime, every break time, we met up like. (Annette, 21,completed LCA, employed)However, a significant issue that emerged from <strong>the</strong> interviews withyoung people was <strong>the</strong> negative labelling <strong>of</strong> LCA students by o<strong>the</strong>r <strong>Leaving</strong><strong>Certificate</strong> students in some schools. Some <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> respondents recalledbeing called names by <strong>the</strong>ir peers in <strong>the</strong> LCE class. Respondents differed,however, in <strong>the</strong> extent to which <strong>the</strong>y regarded such remarks as ‘harmless’,ei<strong>the</strong>r laughing <strong>the</strong>m <strong>of</strong>f or taking <strong>the</strong>m more seriously:You’d always have … o<strong>the</strong>r students in <strong>the</strong> school slagging you about <strong>the</strong> LCA,because … it’s a bit easier than <strong>the</strong> normal <strong>Leaving</strong> Cert, you know, youprobably have Lowest Class <strong>Applied</strong> and you know, stuff like that, you know,just people making jokes like that but sure <strong>the</strong>y wouldn’t probably mean anyharm, just everyone having a bit <strong>of</strong> a laugh, you know. (Andrew, 21,completed LCA, apprentice)What was <strong>the</strong> thing, Lowest Common Arseholes was what it was, LCA, yeah,but you took no notice whatsoever. Some people have a dim view because … youcan see people are under severe pressure … and you know we weren’t underpressure, we were doing it over <strong>the</strong> two years. … Most people had an okay viewabout it like, you know, but <strong>the</strong>re would have been some alright that were justlike, you know, god you’ve no brain inside your head kind <strong>of</strong> thing like. (Sarah,21, completed LCA, employed)It was just slagging your spelling … Ano<strong>the</strong>r thing which I thought was terriblelike a lot <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>m called it <strong>the</strong> handicapped <strong>Leaving</strong>, which really annoyed me.…It really annoyed me, I thought that was awful. (Barbara, 23, completedLCA, employed)Interestingly, some <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> respondents referred to <strong>the</strong> LCE as <strong>the</strong>‘normal’, ‘real’ or ‘straight’ <strong>Leaving</strong> <strong>Certificate</strong> which may suggest <strong>the</strong>y alsohave negative perceptions <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> LCA.Some young people reported that <strong>the</strong>ir class was labelled as <strong>the</strong> ‘dumb’or ‘thick’ class. Even where pejorative terms were not employed, many feltthat <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r <strong>Leaving</strong> <strong>Certificate</strong> groups did not understand <strong>the</strong> nature andpurpose <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> LCA programme:She was like saying oh <strong>the</strong> LCA is a doss year … but I stood up for myself, Istood up I said that’s <strong>the</strong> way I’m going to college, I’m confident, I’ll be able to go

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