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US Training of Death Squads in Iraq? - War Is A Crime .org

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http://www.counterpunch.<strong>org</strong>/hersh01272005.htmlThe Military is Nowhere; the Press is Nowhere; the Congress is Nowhere...We've Been Taken Over By a CultBy SEYMOUR HERSHCounterpunchJanuary 27, 2005Editors' Note: This is a transcript <strong>of</strong> remarks by Seymour Hersh at the Stephen Wise FreeSynagogue <strong>in</strong> New York.About what's go<strong>in</strong>g on <strong>in</strong> terms <strong>of</strong> the President is that as virtuous as I feel, you know, at TheNew Yorker, writ<strong>in</strong>g an alternative history more or less <strong>of</strong> what's been go<strong>in</strong>g on <strong>in</strong> the last threeyears, Ge<strong>org</strong>e Bush feels just as virtuous <strong>in</strong> what he is do<strong>in</strong>g. He is absolutely committed -- Idon't know whether he th<strong>in</strong>ks he's do<strong>in</strong>g God's will or what his father didn't do, or whether it'ssome mandate from -- you know, I just don't know, but Ge<strong>org</strong>e Bush th<strong>in</strong>ks this is the rightth<strong>in</strong>g. He is go<strong>in</strong>g to cont<strong>in</strong>ue do<strong>in</strong>g what he has been do<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> <strong>Iraq</strong>. He's go<strong>in</strong>g to expand it, Ith<strong>in</strong>k, if he can. I th<strong>in</strong>k that the number <strong>of</strong> body bags that come back will make no difference tohim. The body bags are roll<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>. It makes no difference to him, because he will see it as a pricehe has to pay to put America where he th<strong>in</strong>ks it should be. So, he's <strong>in</strong>ured <strong>in</strong> a very strange wayto people like me, to the politicians, most <strong>of</strong> them who are too cowardly anyway to do much. So,the day-to-day anxiety that all <strong>of</strong> us have, and believe me, though he got 58 million votes, many<strong>of</strong> people who voted for him weren't vot<strong>in</strong>g for cont<strong>in</strong>ued warfare, but I th<strong>in</strong>k that's what we'rego<strong>in</strong>g to have.It's hard to predict the future. And it's sort <strong>of</strong> silly to, but the question is: How do you go to him?How do you get at him? What can you do to maybe move him <strong>of</strong>f the course that he sees asvirtuous and he sees as absolutely appropriate? All <strong>of</strong> us -- you have to -- I can't beg<strong>in</strong> toexaggerate how frighten<strong>in</strong>g the position is -- we're <strong>in</strong> right now, because most <strong>of</strong> you don'tunderstand, because the press has not done a very good job. The Senate Intelligence Committee,the new bill that was just passed, provoked by the 9/11 committee actually, is a little bit <strong>of</strong> akabuki dance, I guess is what I want to say, <strong>in</strong> that what it really does is it consolidates an awfullot <strong>of</strong> power <strong>in</strong> the Pentagon -- by statute now. It gives Rumsfeld the right to do an awful lot <strong>of</strong>th<strong>in</strong>gs he has been want<strong>in</strong>g to do, and that is basically manhunt<strong>in</strong>g and kill<strong>in</strong>g them before theykill us, as Peter said. "They did it to us. We've got to do it to them." That is the attitude that -- atthe very top <strong>of</strong> our government exists. And so, I'll just tell you a couple <strong>of</strong> th<strong>in</strong>gs that drive menuts. We can -- you know, there's not much more to go on with.I th<strong>in</strong>k there's a way out <strong>of</strong> it, maybe. I can tell you one th<strong>in</strong>g. Let's all f<strong>org</strong>et this word"<strong>in</strong>surgency". It's one <strong>of</strong> the most mislead<strong>in</strong>g words <strong>of</strong> all. Insurgency assumes that we had goneto <strong>Iraq</strong> and won the war and a group <strong>of</strong> disgruntled people began to operate aga<strong>in</strong>st us and wethen had to do counter-action aga<strong>in</strong>st them. That would be an <strong>in</strong>surgency. We are fight<strong>in</strong>g thepeople we started the war aga<strong>in</strong>st. We are fight<strong>in</strong>g the Ba'athists plus nationalists. We arefight<strong>in</strong>g the very people that started -- they only choose to fight <strong>in</strong> different time spans than wewant them to, <strong>in</strong> different places. We took Baghdad easily. It wasn't because be won. We took67

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