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US Training of Death Squads in Iraq? - War Is A Crime .org

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* Arun Gupta, former editor <strong>of</strong> The Guardian, one <strong>of</strong> the most respected <strong>in</strong>dependentnewspapers <strong>in</strong> recent U.S. history. He is currently an editor with the New York City IndependentMedia Center's newspaper, The Indypendent.AMY GOODMAN: Well, f<strong>in</strong>ally, we're jo<strong>in</strong>ed <strong>in</strong> the studio by Arun Gupta, who has beenreport<strong>in</strong>g on the proliferation <strong>of</strong> militias <strong>in</strong> <strong>Iraq</strong>. Arun is an editor with the New York CityIndependent Media Center's newspaper, The Indypendent. He writes <strong>in</strong> his article that the U.S.government is not only aware <strong>of</strong> these illegal militias, but is arm<strong>in</strong>g, tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g and fund<strong>in</strong>g themfor use <strong>in</strong> their counter-<strong>in</strong>surgency operations. His article will be <strong>in</strong> the May issue <strong>of</strong> Z magaz<strong>in</strong>e.And we welcome you to Democracy Now!ARUN GUPTA: Thank you.AMY GOODMAN: Talk about what’s happen<strong>in</strong>g.ARUN GUPTA: Well, these militias, which the government, the U.S. government is referr<strong>in</strong>g toas pop-up militias first came to prom<strong>in</strong>ence a couple <strong>of</strong> months ago <strong>in</strong> a report <strong>in</strong> the Wall StreetJournal. This Journal reporter Greg Jaffe noted that these militias are appear<strong>in</strong>g all over <strong>Iraq</strong>.And he was <strong>in</strong>terview<strong>in</strong>g various members <strong>of</strong> a General Petraeus's staff. General Petraeus is theU.S. general and head <strong>of</strong> tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g all security services <strong>in</strong> <strong>Iraq</strong>. And it was presented as like, gee,all these militias are start<strong>in</strong>g to appear all over Baghdad, militias with names like the MuthanaBrigade, the Defenders <strong>of</strong> Khadamiya, and the special police commandos. And Petraeus's staffwas <strong>in</strong>terested <strong>in</strong> fund<strong>in</strong>g and support<strong>in</strong>g these, but what it really appears to be turn<strong>in</strong>g out thatthese have been set up <strong>in</strong> secret with the U.S. government's knowledge all along and that <strong>in</strong> many<strong>in</strong>stances these militias are actually ex-Ba'athists, many <strong>of</strong> the thugs who served under SaddamHusse<strong>in</strong> <strong>in</strong> his notorious <strong>in</strong>telligence services, and they are be<strong>in</strong>g deployed extensivelythroughout <strong>Iraq</strong> <strong>in</strong> counter-<strong>in</strong>surgency operations. They have also been implicated <strong>in</strong> death squadoperations known as the “Salvador option,” and they also appear to be us<strong>in</strong>g torture extensivelythroughout <strong>Iraq</strong>, so it's a very unseemly situation. What essentially the U.S. is try<strong>in</strong>g to do isprivatize, is outsource these militias and provide itself with cover, but the whole time it's actuallyfund<strong>in</strong>g and creat<strong>in</strong>g these militias apparently.JUAN GONZALEZ: Now, your article seems to <strong>in</strong>dicate also that the militias have been hav<strong>in</strong>gsome effect on the resistance <strong>in</strong> that the actual -- just by count<strong>in</strong>g the toll <strong>of</strong> American soldiers,that there's been a reduction <strong>in</strong> recent months <strong>of</strong> the actual number <strong>of</strong> American soldiers killed.Could you talk about that?ARUN GUPTA: Yes. The peek number <strong>of</strong> U.S. soldiers killed <strong>in</strong> combat was last November,dur<strong>in</strong>g the sack<strong>in</strong>g <strong>of</strong> Fallujah. 126 U.S. soldiers died <strong>in</strong> combat. By this past March, it had fallenby 75%. So, go<strong>in</strong>g on that and U.S. casualties, <strong>in</strong> general, it appears that there is some success.They're us<strong>in</strong>g these militias extensively <strong>in</strong> the so-called Sunni Triangle area: Baghdad, Mosul,Samarra, Tikrit, Ramadi. And what it appears to be, accord<strong>in</strong>g to Jane's Intelligence Digest isthat they're us<strong>in</strong>g ex-Ba'athists to hunt down their former colleagues who are direct<strong>in</strong>g much <strong>of</strong>the <strong>in</strong>surgency. So they're -- the U.S. is say<strong>in</strong>g, like, well, these are a bunch <strong>of</strong> Ba'athist deadenders<strong>in</strong> the <strong>in</strong>surgency, but at the same time they're us<strong>in</strong>g the ex-Ba'athists themselves, whothey said they were free<strong>in</strong>g <strong>Iraq</strong> from, to hunt down <strong>in</strong>surgents. But they are also just round<strong>in</strong>g77

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