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ANETA SZYLAK: It is very tough financially. We are trying not to stick to any major<br />

donors that would make decisions for us about what we are supposed to do there.<br />

We operate in different networks. In the future we will have our own sources of<br />

income, so that will also balance our situation a little bit. We have a pretty big space,<br />

3500 square meters, and it will expand further. We are going to build an extension,<br />

the building will be over 5200 square meters. We also have a collection and have<br />

been collecting <strong>art</strong> works since the mid 90s. It is a wonderful thing to have but also<br />

a burden in economical and organizational terms. So we are trying to develop some<br />

projects that will give more visibility to the collection in terms of the recontextualization<br />

and translation of those works from Poland that have a strong political overtone. We<br />

work a lot with politically involved <strong>art</strong>ists and activists. This has been the specificity<br />

of Wyspa since the beginning, originating from the mid 80s. Working in with public<br />

spaces, activism, and highly political <strong>art</strong> were always our major fields.<br />

MARINA SORBELLO: The time for the presentations took longer than expected.<br />

So I wanted to ask you if there are any questions, or any topics you would like to<br />

discuss. Otherwise I will give word to the public.<br />

PUBLIC: My question has to do with the commercial aspect of Eastern European<br />

<strong>art</strong>. My question is primarily to Mr. Somlói, as a collector, but also for Mr. Podnar, as<br />

a gallery owner. What do you refer to when you talk about the lack of private initiative<br />

in the Eastern European context, especially in your country? And as a collector,<br />

could you say what your main reason is for collecting? Maybe you have a p<strong>art</strong>icular<br />

attitude towards the national expression of <strong>art</strong>, or maybe you receive special tax<br />

reductions... Another question is: do the institutions have a p<strong>art</strong>icular relationship<br />

with the galleries, or are they still two worlds opposite?<br />

ZSOLT SOMLÓI: Ok, I can’t think, I can’t draw, I can’t read, I can’t write, so my <strong>art</strong><br />

is my collection. My motivation is very simple. In response to what you ask in general,<br />

this story came to my mind. It was a Hungarian who invented vitamin C. His name<br />

is Alber Szent-Györgyi. He was a very clever chemist. Once he was asked to give an<br />

interview about how he invented vitamin C, and the importance of different factors<br />

in the invention it. So he said that money is just factor number 3. Number one is<br />

creativity and innovation. Number two is the public understanding and public support<br />

around you, those people who want you to do something good, or people who listen<br />

to you and understand what you are doing. The number three factor is money. This<br />

interview was given forty years ago, but I think it is still valid.<br />

GREGOR PODNAR: I would refer to the private sector as a power system. That means<br />

that with only one center of power, it becomes a system that is not very dynamic. So<br />

I see all over Europe, that whenever there is a power system, it can have negative<br />

as well as positive influences, which provides for more of a competitive structure.<br />

So in the case of Slovenia, there were mainly two financiers and two p<strong>art</strong>ners for<br />

contemporary <strong>art</strong>, including the minister of culture and the city council. I believe that<br />

cultural politics have something to do with an individual approach. It might sound<br />

strange if I tell it from a curatorial background, when this type of demystification or<br />

demonization of neo-liberalism is very much at stake. So I would say that if there is<br />

a neo-liberal system we have to enhance certain systems and improve the already<br />

existing institutional framework. That means that if there is a private institution, such<br />

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