art/vision/voice - Maryland Institute College of Art
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56 <strong>art</strong> / <strong>vision</strong> / <strong>voice</strong><br />
and I wanted to go to Booker T. So I literally got thrown out <strong>of</strong> class<br />
so I could go to Booker T. And that’s where I met Albert Jean, who<br />
was a protégé <strong>of</strong> Elizabeth Catlett. [All that] set designing and all <strong>of</strong><br />
that stuff that I was doing, I did in high school because this man<br />
had a core <strong>of</strong> us, Larry Songy was one <strong>of</strong> those people. He worked<br />
at the post <strong>of</strong>fice at night to supplement his income, so if we had to<br />
do opera sets, he’d make a sketch on a paper, turn it over to us, and<br />
he’d come back eleven o’clock at night and check on us. So I was<br />
literally going to school from eight o’clock in the morning until<br />
twelve, one o’clock in the morning. And when I got ready to go to<br />
college, I was really thinking about going to California. He said,<br />
“No, you’re going to Xavier.” It wasn’t a request. He took me to meet<br />
Doc [Numa Rousseve]. And like you, again I came out <strong>of</strong> high<br />
school a high C, low B student, going to Xavier and walked in on<br />
Frank Hayden, Lurana, and those people. [As a student,] Frank<br />
Hayden was a giant in college, and like you, I’m coming out <strong>of</strong><br />
high school, I figured, “shit, I can do this.” And you walk in with<br />
pr<strong>of</strong>essional people and you go, “whoa, this is something different.”<br />
But I think what really got me when I first walked in is that<br />
these people had a thing that they were doing, and if [they] handed<br />
me something, and I’d say “thank you,” [they] didn’t say “you’re<br />
welcome,” [they’d] say “pass it on.” The only way you could thank<br />
people for giving you something was to pass it on to somebody<br />
else. I heard that the first day I walked in. And it’s been a way<br />
<strong>of</strong> life for me ever since.<br />
Lurana once said to me, “You know, you’re going to really, really<br />
do well at what you do,” and I’m looking at this woman like she’s<br />
got to be crazy. Here’s this black man talking about being an <strong>art</strong>ist<br />
in 1958. She said, “Everybody will always underestimate you, so they’ll<br />
always get ambushed, they’re not going to know what’s coming.”<br />
That’s the way she taught us.<br />
I never intended to teach nobody, nothing, never. When I got my<br />
degree from Michigan State, I got a phone call from Lurana and in<br />
the phone call, she was actually representing Rousseve and herself,<br />
and they asked me if I’d come back to Xavier and teach for a couple<br />
<strong>of</strong> years. There’s no way I could say no, I mean, these are my mentors<br />
saying “we need you.” And I told them, “Okay, I’ll come back and<br />
give you a couple <strong>of</strong> years.” That was 39 years ago.<br />
The ideal is that to me teaching has never been about academics.<br />
Teaching is nothing more than passing on information to people<br />
who just don’t have it yet. That’s what it’s about. And it became a way<br />
<strong>of</strong> life, and like you said, it’s not like giving back to the community,<br />
it’s passing on to the community what’s theirs.