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42 After the meeting, Mr. Tükmen was accompanying Mr. Kissinger to the door. Mr. Kissinger was quite tired and bored of the meeting and he turned to Mr. Türkmen and said “Mr. Türkmen, now from here, I’ll go and see the Greek foreign minister and after that I’ll go and see the Greek Cypriot foreign minister and after that I’ll go to my psychiatrist”. So upon talking to Turkish, Greek and Greek Cypriot foreign ministers, he goes to his psychiatrist. Probably after the famous fiasco of Mr. Annan, maybe Annan is looking for a psychiatrist right now. I don’t now how many people from now on will work on Cyprus and search for a psychiatrist. What did media do in that period about Cyprus, how they approached the Cyprus issue? I think when I look at the Turkish side; a very strong self-criticism was made towards the policies of Turkey and the Turkish Cypriot leadership. I can show you hundreds of articles being published in this period in the Turkish media; but I cannot show you more than five-six in Greek and Greek Cypriot media, which was criticizing the Greek and the Greek Cypriot policy. Almost all the articles were based how Mr. Denktaş was against of solution, how he rejects Annan Plan, how the Turkish military is responsible of the deadlock in Cyprus. The Greek media always used the definition of Turkish invasion of Cyprus and blamed the Turkish State. Only a few commentators wrote that the Cyprus issue was created because of the mistakes of Greek Cypriots and Greece and Turkey interfered because Greece tried to annex Cyprus. I don’t recall any articles that criticised the economic embargo to the Turkish Cypriot side for the last 30 years. If there was a strong self-criticism towards Greece and the Greek Cypriots, I strongly believe that we would have solved the Cyprus problem today. The second fact is that it was not only Denktaş who rejected the Annan Plan, but the Greek Cypriot leader Mr. Papadopoulos was against it as well. Not only Papadopoulos himself but presidential elections showed that 52 % of the Greek Cypriot public was against it as well. Since the presidential election in the Greek Cypriot side was like a referendum to Annan Plan, they didn’t elect the politician Glafkos Clerides who was much more moderate in negotiations with Denktaş; but they have elected a politician who is known to be a strong nationalist. They have elected Papadopoulos in the first round with 52 % so again, I would like to underline that if Greek press was critical to the Greek policy to in Cyprus, I believe that it would be much easier to find a solution to the Cyprus issue today. We made a good start for the first time after many years, the communication channels are opened between two countries. Greece and Turkey in all fields are trying their best, but there still is a long way to go for building up a lasting peace and cooperation between two countries. I tried to show you the empty part of the glass. What we have to do, how we have to approach the future? I think on the political field, the political will to build up new relations, to build up bridges should go on and the leadership should be determined to keep up these roads for a lasting peace between two countries. Mr. Costas Simithis and Mr. Papandreau started a new policy, which is based on dialogue and helping Turkey to unite with Europe. I strongly believe that Turkey and Greece should be determined to work on filling up the gap. Turkey should be a part of Europe but it would be a big mistake for anybody to think that if the policy is used to push Turkey to the corners, to accept all the arguments of Greece in Cyprus. Peace should be reached by tolerance and by understanding; the problem could only be solved by giving and taking. We have to give, they have to give, we have to take, and they have to take as well. There is a sort of bureaucracy both in Greece and Turkey, which still constitute an obstacle for opening a new channel for trade and cultural exchange programmes. We have worked the last 3 years; we have started something new in our relations. We have started building up bridges. We are getting to know each other, we’re meeting each other; we didn’t even know the names of each other before. For a Turk, it was Yorgos, Maria, for a Greek it was Hasan and that’s it. This is a new start but what I am saying is to be able to build up on these good bases, we have to first of all look for the coming ten years, 20 years to change the education of the new generation. I remember in my childhood, in my elementary school years, I don’t know whether the history books are the same but it as saying that the Greek army entered the Anatolia, invaded Anatolia and killed or the pregnant women. I remember reading something like that I don’t know whether still in the Turkish elementary school books these kind of expressions or these kind of explanations are written. These expressions should be completely abolished, completely eliminated because we cannot change anything in the past whatever we have lived, we have lived. Both nations have suffered out of it, a lot of Greeks and Turks died. We cannot change this reality. What we have to do is to look for the future. What we have to understand is that we have to live together in this part of the world. We have nowhere to move the countries Turkey and Greece. If we cooperate, both nations will benefit out of it. For cooperation, we have to first start to educate the new generations with the feelings that we have to understand each other, we have to love each other and we have to tolerate each other. Although the politicians will talk about that we have to come together, we have to keep on dialogue; it won’t help. After ten years or 20 years we will end up being the same if we again have nationalist politicians. The cultural exchange, which I still believe very important, I think Turkey has opened its Rebuilding Communication Association des Etats Généraux des Etudiants de L’Europe
doors to Greek cultural events. I have mentioned you couple of events which were performed this year created a real sympathy towards Greeks. We have to feel sympathy towards Greeks but they have to feel sympathy towards Turks as well. How to do that? They should see the big names and big performances from Turkey, like Fazıl Say just coming to my mind. As far as I heard, the Ministry of Culture is not giving a green light to such performances in Greece, which will affect the Greek people, which will have an echo in the Greek people. Giving a performance in Herodion is very important. Every year for five, six months, there’s a festival like Istanbul festival here and all the people from Athens are very eager to see a good performance. If they could have decided 3 years ago, last summer we could have a performance there but I have been told that the Greek Ministry of Culture doesn’t open the way. In media, there are articles that were distorted a lot of time in the past. There are “clichés” in both sides. For example in Greece, they say “Sahte Devlet (False State)” or “invasion force” or “uzlaşmaz” which is doesn’t get together, all these things are constantly used in the main articles. On the Turkish side again, we don’t use “Cyprus Government (Kıbrıs Hükümeti), which they call it Cyprus Government. I try to make a balance whether the world recognises Mr. Denktaş as the president or not but there’s a state over there, which is recognised by Turkey and he is the president of that country. On the other side, there’s another president is elected by the people, he’s a president too. These can be changed but as long as the political approach is there, as long as we don’t want to see what we have done in the past you said self-criticism. The Turkish press, Turkish journalists, politicians started a very healthy selfcriticism in two years but I don’t recall much, just a very few self-criticism in the Greek side. I remember Mr. Papandreou said that it was a tragic mistake of Greece. Greece suffered because of the Greece’s historical mistake. He could only say it twice in the last three years because whenever he said it, everybody started to say he’s a traitor. He wanted the public press to come out and support him little more. I remember only one or two professors and some more people but in general approach, I’m afraid that this healthy self-criticism which we are living in Turkey didn’t happen in Greece. I fully believe that if they had criticised themselves, we would have a solution today in Cyprus. I don’t mean that we are in a bad situation but to look to future for a lasting peace, I think we have to work on these matters to eliminate all these nationalistic approaches, the bureaucracy which is still very nationalistic. Association des Etats Généraux des Etudiants de L’Europe HERCULES MILLAS (ΗΡΑΚΛΗΣ ΜΙΛΛΑΣ) My name is Herkül Millas in Turkey, Iraklis Millas in Greece. I was born in Turkey, brought up in Turkey but after 1971, I established a new life in Greece. I am Greek, I am civil engineer and I am a political scientist. THE LAST YEARS, I HAVE DEVELOPED A HOBBY: GREEK-TURKISH RELATIONS. I am not speaking as a representative of either nations and as you will understand from my identity, I am a bit ‘mixed’. I want to congratulate the organisers of this nice conference for this perfect combination with George Bush, when he started his military operation we have started a dialogue. This is unique. The question we mentioned about the horses with the tails cut, I want to ask `who are the horses? I have the feeling we are the horses, maybe donkeys, I don’t know why but we suffer a lot. I am not an authority from the media but I have some experience about Greeks and Turks. I have two stories. First story is that when I was in Ankara some years in 1990s and there was a change of the government in Greece and I was curious to know if there is going to be a new policy for Turkey. Therefore, I was closely following the Turkish press. I was very careful because I know how to read between the lines and I am not influenced that much from what they say; I know how to understand what is behind what was said. I had the impression that the new Greek government was very bad and had an aggressive policy against Turkey, not objective, not very nice also a bit provocative. At last I said: “pity this new government is going to continue with this very bad policy”. Rebuilding Communication 43
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