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Question 9: Do consultees think that if an accused lacks decision-making capacity there should be a mandatory fact-finding procedure in the magistrates’ court? Answer Notwithstanding that the offence charged is only triable summarily, cases presented to the magistrates’ courts involving accused persons who are unfit to plead may, and frequently do, give rise to serious concerns over the need to protect the public. The risk of further uncontrolled behaviour can in such cases be high. Accordingly, it is, in the Society’s view, essential that there should be a transparently fair hearing to establish the facts so that the court can determine whether any order is necessary and, if so, the level of intervention required. Question 10: If consultees think there should be a mandatory fact-finding procedure, do they think it should be limited to consideration of the external elements of the offence or should it mirror our provisional proposals 8 and 9? Answer The Society would support provisional proposals for the court to have the option of ordering a further hearing to determine whether the accused was acquitted due to a mental disorder existing at the time of the offence. It is inevitable that, in many cases, the issue of the defendant’s mental state at the time of the offence will be explored during the fact-finding hearing. It is, for example, possible that the accused might be acquitted since he or she was unable to form the necessary criminal intent for the commission of the offence. Despite such a finding a further hearing would be necessary if a separate finding of mental disorder existing at the time would be necessary to justify any formal order being made by the court. Such hearings should be at the discretion of the court which dealt with the fact-finding hearing. Question 11: Do the matters raised in questions 8, 9 and 10 merit equal consideration in relation to the procedure in youth courts? Answer The Society can see no reason why the procedure which is set out in the provisional proposal in the consultation paper should not apply equally to youths. The rights of the young accused person must qualify for the same level of protection as those of the adult accused. Question 12: How far, if at all, does the age of criminal responsibility factor into the issue of decision-making capacity in youth trials? Answer Whilst the Society acknowledges that a lack of developmental maturity may be a factor which is highly relevant to the issue of capacity to make decisions and/or participate in a trial, it is not convinced that it is necessary for the court to address the capacity of the accused to understand that the actions he/she is accused of doing are seriously wrong. The Society accepts that part of decision-making capacity is an understanding of the seriousness of the proceedings and the potential consequences. However, it would contend that the key to resolving this issue is determining what steps need to be taken to ensure that the rights of the accused are not adversely affected as regards engagement in the trial process. The court should be required to decide, on the basis of expert evidence, whether the accused, 8
either adult or youth, has the capacity to make decisions and the factoring in of the age of criminal responsibility would risk obscuring the issue to be addressed. 9
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CONSULTEES, LISTED ALPHABETICALLY A
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Sarkar, Sameer Searle, Geoff Sense
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o The UN Committee on the Rights of
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Rethinking the Criminal Responsibil
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asic competencies of young people a
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parliament to consider rather than
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preventing crime. Graham and Bowlin
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other areas of the law’ and this
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absolute minimum age of criminal re
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The views of the judiciary in the U
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all children who are alleged to hav
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39 Trevor Jones‘Public Opinion, P
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Charity No 1137430 Company No 60065
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Charity No 1137430 Company No 60065
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From: Bickle Andrew Sent: 10 Januar
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Comments on “Unfitness to Plead,
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8. It would be very easy to insert
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himself at trial. The Court did not
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Response The Society welcomes the o
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for the task in hand. This would ap
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1. Introduction “UNFITNESS TO PLE
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On the other hand, the so-called co
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The Law Commissioners, Steel House,
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Law Commission consultation on unfi
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could possibly mean that they take
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whether present at the time of the
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disposals. We consider that the ref
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difficulties may or may not be fit
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profession to treatment, the civil
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of the decision the accused must ma
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25. We consider that Provisional Pr
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Provisional Proposal 5: Decision-ma
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giving evidence, it is unlikely tha
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Provisional Proposal 7: A defined p
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42. The difficulty lies in that the
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envisages that there could be an ac
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Reply 50. We consider we have alrea
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Question 6: Are there circumstances
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uilds upon the disposal of the case
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determination of jurisdiction as ap
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age” in which term we include the
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The assumption that has been made i
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which the court is satisfied that t
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The current section 4A procedure re
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The CPS then re-reviews the case in
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cases, there should be a single tri
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magistrates/District Judges, keepin
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Law Commission Consultation paper N
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From: Enys Delmage Sent: 16 March 2
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for meaningful participation in the
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(7) A defined psychiatric test to a
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(13) In the event of a referral bac
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[Paragraph 6.153] N/A (5) Should a
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[Paragraph 8.68] YES (12) How far i
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Question 1: Do consultees agree tha
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Prisoners and the Mental Health Act
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RESPONSE TO LAW COMMISSION CONSULTA
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3 Admission for treatment. (1) A pa
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(8) Do consultees think that the ca
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UNFITNESS TO PLEAD Response by the
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In addition to the above proposals,
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that defendants with mental health
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Unfitness to plead - Some Responses
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or made the omission charged and th
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(6) Are there circumstances in whic
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statistics. In 2008 there were 484
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LAW COMMISSION CONSULTATION: UNFITN
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Our Comments We are not criminal pr
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4. We have been asked to suggest or
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particular tool should necessarily
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My comments refer to the recent Con
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NATIONAL BENCH CHAIRMEN’S FORUM A
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RESPONSE TO THE LAW COMMISSION’S
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There is a real danger in conflatin
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The group felt that many experts’
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Tel: Fitzwilliam College Fax: Cambr
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Unfitness to Plead: the place to fi
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court proceedings” (at para 149).
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processes, and, indeed, on the comp
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of the European Court of Human Righ
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Law Commission Steel House 11 Tothi
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obligations, it would be much easie
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Response to the Law Commission’s
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fit to plead, the availability and
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disability) there should be a power
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Disposal under the Mental Health Ac
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I agree. There should be a test of
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Gray, N.S., O’Connor, C., William
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On the Friday, the day before she w
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The following Thursday at The Black
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Cases involving the learning disabl
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Graham Rogers and Associates Limite
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In this case, it is being proposed
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Being able to ‘read’ The Sun or
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test, it may also begin to indicate
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subjected to the new provisions mus
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introduction, more than ten times t
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Where possible an individual should
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Question 12: How far if at all, doe
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agreement on the primary issue enga
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Unfitness to Plead Sense Response P
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RESPONSE TO THE LAW COMMISSION CONS
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QUESTION 9 Do consultees think that
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Obviously the judge should be guide
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Question 7: Should an accused who i
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problems which arose in B & others
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1. Introduction Victim Support is t
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In our view, a general difficulty w
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We are in support of this provision
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Preliminary Comments Dr Eileen Viza
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9 (9) Do consultees think that if a
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