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Comments in white are satisfied.<br />

Comments in orange background are not satisfied or are new comments.<br />

Comments in blue background can be addressed at the NFSSR stage.<br />

Comments in yellow are deferred due to need for hydrology model.<br />

APPENDIX A. TRCA COMMENTS ON SEATON MESPA DECEMBER 2011; MESPA TEAM RESPONSE FEBRUARY 2013<br />

# Section #<br />

Page # in<br />

PDF TRCA Comment Action Required<br />

45. 6.2 152 Some parts <strong>of</strong> the Iroquois Shoreline were not The Province needs to resolve this as prohibiting<br />

included in the NHS, and are therefore SWMFs in the Iroquois Shoreline may be<br />

developable; however, the CPDP policy does not counterproductive for water balance purposes as<br />

allow SWMFs in these areas.<br />

these may be the best opportunities to infiltrate.<br />

46. 6.2 152 How will erosion be prevented where SWMFs<br />

outlet to sandy soils?<br />

47. 6.2 152 The SWMF matrices <strong>of</strong>ten indicate that a water<br />

balance is not required for forest communities as<br />

the forest is supported by precipitation. However,<br />

this is not the case in many instances as it<br />

appears from the contours that forests are downgradient<br />

so they could be affected by changes in<br />

drainage.<br />

48. 6.2 153 This section includes the statement that “Minor<br />

modifications to the extent <strong>of</strong> these buffers may<br />

be acceptable, as determined through detailed,<br />

site specific investigations at the EIS/FSS stage <strong>of</strong><br />

development, although any reductions may<br />

necessitate the need for a permit from TRCA<br />

(Ontario Regulation 166/06).” The section needs<br />

to be revised to reflect the policies in the <strong>City</strong>’s<br />

Conformity Amendment with respect to uses and<br />

grading permitted in the NHS. Remove the<br />

reference to O. Reg. 166/06 as it will not be<br />

relevant in many cases.<br />

49. Table B6.1 154 There are concerns with the 7% preliminary pond<br />

sizing criterion. Given the uncertainty with the<br />

hydrologic model, the Regional assessment, and<br />

the erosion assessment, the 7% assumption may<br />

not be appropriate, and at a minimum should be<br />

verified with actual data.<br />

50. Table B6.1 154 The SWM plan details further study requirements<br />

in relation to the location <strong>of</strong> SWMFs. Illustrating<br />

exact SWMF locations at this time may be<br />

premature as specific studies (e.g. geotechnical,<br />

Hydro G, fluvial), are required to finalize the<br />

SWMF locations.<br />

51. Table B6.1 154 In addition to the above please note that the<br />

meander belt assessment discussed in Table 6.1<br />

is not appropriate in all circumstances. A detailed<br />

assessment using the appropriate methodology<br />

will be required at the subsequent phase.<br />

52. 6.3 158 One <strong>of</strong> the criteria used for determining the<br />

location <strong>of</strong> SWMFs included restricting<br />

encroachment to half the width <strong>of</strong> the linkage, or a<br />

minimum <strong>of</strong> 50 m. This is not in keeping with the<br />

NHS principles. There is no consideration <strong>of</strong> the<br />

cumulative impact <strong>of</strong> these facilities on the NHS.<br />

Provide an explanation and assessment.<br />

Provide water balance assessments for forest<br />

communities as necessary.<br />

Revise to reflect the policies in the <strong>City</strong>’s<br />

Conformity Amendment<br />

Complete a “test” using conservative assumptions<br />

(i.e. Regional control requirements) to verify this<br />

criterion.<br />

Update relevant sections <strong>of</strong> the MESP, and include<br />

in the ToR for the NFSSRs.<br />

Include in the ToR for the NFSSRs.<br />

As discussed at the meetings, the facilities should<br />

be located so as to limit their encroachment to a<br />

minimum <strong>of</strong> 25% <strong>of</strong> the corridor width.<br />

Consulting Team’s Response<br />

April 27, 2011<br />

Further discussion required.<br />

Action Taken<br />

MESPA December 2011<br />

As detailed in Section B6.2, discussions with<br />

agencies clarified the use <strong>of</strong> the Iroquois Shoreline<br />

for SWMFs. The direction provided is that<br />

justification and geotechnical support is required for<br />

locating SWMFs on the Lake Iroquois Shoreline.<br />

There are two SWMFs that are located completely<br />

or partially on the Lake Iroquois Shoreline: SWMFs<br />

14 and 30. The justification and support for these<br />

SWMFs to be located on the Shoreline will be<br />

discussed in more detail at the NFSSR stage.<br />

No action required.<br />

The design <strong>of</strong> outlets is site-specific and will be<br />

determined at the NFSSR stage.<br />

Acknowledged. Woodland screening and water balance<br />

assessments were undertaken and are reported in<br />

a new section <strong>of</strong> the MESPA, Section B9.<br />

Acknowledged.<br />

This is a standard ‘rule <strong>of</strong> thumb’ that is<br />

considered reasonable for the MESP. The need<br />

for a larger or smaller area is determined at the<br />

NFSSR stage. If an increase or decrease in<br />

area is required, this will occur within the<br />

development area.<br />

The approach to the SWMF matrices was<br />

established through discussions with the<br />

agencies and agreed upon in 2008. The<br />

matrices identify the general pond locations and<br />

not exact configuration. The MESP is clear that<br />

additional study will be required to determine the<br />

exact SWMF location. The matrices considered<br />

topographical, geotechnical, hydrogeological and<br />

fluvial information and other data necessary to<br />

support the general locations as shown.<br />

The table was intended to provide direction for<br />

the general location <strong>of</strong> SWMFs (see comment<br />

50).<br />

Section B6.2 makes explicit reference to the <strong>City</strong><br />

<strong>of</strong> <strong>Pickering</strong> Seaton Conformity Amendment and<br />

specifically policy 7.17 related to buffers; the<br />

reference to Ontario Regulation 166/06 is removed.<br />

In Table B6.1, it states that if detailed grading show<br />

that larger SWMF blocks are required, revisions<br />

may be made to pond locations/ configurations,<br />

however, all previously stated criteria and policies<br />

must be met. This clarifies the intent <strong>of</strong> wording in<br />

the column to the left in this table.<br />

The table <strong>of</strong> contents for the NFSSRs (Appendix<br />

J2) reflects the requirements for specific studies to<br />

identify specific pond locations.<br />

Table B6.1 has been removed. The table <strong>of</strong><br />

contents for the NFSSRs requires assessment <strong>of</strong><br />

meander belts.<br />

Noted.<br />

TRCA Comment on MESPA<br />

Not addressed. See comments related to<br />

erosion and small tributaries.<br />

Noted. See comments below.<br />

The text still states that “Modifications to the<br />

extent <strong>of</strong> these MESPA buffers may be<br />

acceptable, if so determined through detailed<br />

site specific investigations at the NFSSR stage<br />

<strong>of</strong> development, and must take into<br />

consideration the policies <strong>of</strong> the <strong>City</strong> <strong>of</strong> <strong>Pickering</strong><br />

Seaton Conformity”. We do not support the<br />

noted flexibility that is provided in the text to<br />

allow for changes to the buffers at the NFSSR<br />

stage. This wording needs to be removed.<br />

Team Response<br />

February 2013<br />

See response to Comment #28 above.<br />

Clarification has been provided in Section<br />

B6.2. The MESP study level determined<br />

the applicable buffer limits, with the<br />

exception <strong>of</strong> for wetlands. For wetlands,<br />

additional site-specific examination is<br />

required at the NFSSR stage and as such,<br />

for the MESPA SWMF matrix analysis, a<br />

conservative 30m buffer to wetlands was<br />

applied.<br />

Noted. To be addressed at the NFSSR stage. Acknowledged. To be addressed in<br />

NFSSRs.<br />

Comment addressed.<br />

Comment addressed.<br />

See comment 40. See response to comment #40. See response to response to comment #40. See the response to comment #40.<br />

PAGE 12 February 2013

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