Transcript of Hearing 12/12/97 - TWA Flight 800 Investigation

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13051234If you are going to say that at some point --if you have decided that there is a level of safety,then it has to be achieved through the MEL process.You cannot let that level of safety be violated.5CAPTAIN REKART:Do you think -- do you feel6789that the present certification requirements of alwaysconsidering the explosive mixture and always removingthe ignition sources is adequate to allow the -- one ofthese remedial sources to be –– or, remedial fixes to10be used,and then allow it to be inoperative?11WITNESS McSWEENEY:I would just as soon not12bias the ARAC group.I think that is the issue that13they are supposed to be dealing with.14CAPTAIN REKART:Okay.15WITNESS McSWEENEY:I would hazard to guess16that if I made a statement here, they would come back1718and give me exactly what I asked for.go through that thinking process.I want them to1920more questions, sir.CAPTAIN REKART: Okay, thank you. I have no2122Honeywell, Inc.?CHAIRMAN HALL:Thank you, Captain.23MR. THOMAS:Honeywell has no questions, Mr.24Chairman.25CHAIRMAN HALL:Crane Company Hydro–Aire?CAPITAL HILL REPORTING, INC.(202) 466-9500
13061MR. BOUSHIE:Crane has no questions, Mr.2Chairman.3CHAIRMAN HALL:Okay, do any of the parties45have any additional questions for this panel?(No response. )6If not,does the Technical Panel have any78additional questions? Dr. Birky?MR. BIRKY: I do; a couple of real short9questions, I think.In response to Mr. Streeter’s10questions of Mr. Thomas,you referred to the triple11seven gaging system. My question -- as I understand12it,that gaging -- the gage sensor is in the bottom of13the tank,is that correct?14WITNESS THOMAS:Correct.15MR. BIRKY:In light of what we heard about16the build-up of the sulphur compounds, does that cause17you concern?Is it possible to move those sensors at18the top of the tank so they wouldn’t be in the fuel?19WITNESS THOMAS:I would have to look at the2021detailed design of the system and the wiring andeverything associated with it. Again, it is not –– it2223is a pinging system, if you will.It is not a fulltimecontinuous frequency system.2425If you -- if I understand from the testimonyof some day ago, you know, some –– the voltagesCAPITAL HILL REPORTING, INC.(202) 466-9500
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119112“The reticulate polyurethan
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1193123The Air Force developed this
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1CHAIRMAN HALL:1201I know that goes
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12051and then we will charter ARAC,
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12251 MR. ANDERSON: I would like to
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12CHAIRMAN HALL:specific informatio
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1235123becomes an option that becom
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124512345MR. SWAIM: Mr. McSweeney,
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124712eliminating.so, the key is, i
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12491will be at the ARAC.2so,we hav
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