Transcript of Hearing 12/12/97 - TWA Flight 800 Investigation

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12831had removed material from an F-4 which showed no2deterioration,and yet in questioning from the Board3Mr.Liddell responded that material had been removed45from an F-15,deterioration,and I believe that involved somealthough I am not certain.67Is there some way we can look into this,because it appears that the later airplane is the one89that has the deterioration,didn’t.and the earlier airplane10MR. LAUZZE:Are you referring to me, sir?111213141516MR. STREETER: Yes, sir. I was wondering ifwe could possibly look into the information that cameout from these two pieces of testimony to see if wecould find out whether there is the situation.DR. LOEB: Mr. Streeter, I can answer that.We definitely will.17MR. STREETER:Okay, thank you very much,181920sir. For Mr. Tyson or Mr. Lauzze, do you know if theAir Force has used reticulated foams in any large airframes?21MR. LAUZZE:Yesterday I believe I referred22to the C-130.The Navy is using it in the P-3. I2324think those are probably the two largest systems.Going back to one of your earlier questions25on new aircraft,the Air Force is in the process ofCAPITAL HILL REPORTING, INC.(202) 466-9500
128412345buying the C-130 J. It is going to be in the C-130 J,a brand new system.Going back to the other question on the F-15,the earlier versions of the F-15 use the polyester foamthat Bob referred to earlier, which did have a6hydrolytic stability issue.It has since been switched7over to polyether,and that degradation issue has89pretty well gone away.MR. STREETER:Okay, so it really is a10product type of situation that you have to deal with?11MR. LAUZZE:Yes, sir.12131415MR. STREETER: Okay. Again, for either Mr.Lauzze or Mr. Tyson, the discussions on OBIGS. You hadsome schematics up there that I felt gave a fairly goodbreak-down of how the system worked, but it doesn’t16give me–– never having worked with one of those, it1718doesn’t give me a reference as far as weight or size.Is this a large -- physically large system,19or heavy,or what does it entail in the aircraft?20WITNESS TYSON:It really depends on how you21interface it to the airplane.I can give you -- and I222324am going to be drawing deep into my memory for some ofthis .I can give you some numbers for tactical25airplanes.If I am remembering correctly, a retrofitCAPITAL HILL REPORTING, INC.(202) 466-9500
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119112“The reticulate polyurethan
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1193123The Air Force developed this
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12051and then we will charter ARAC,
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12231reasons,like airline dispatch
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12251 MR. ANDERSON: I would like to
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123will participate.WITNESS THOMAS:
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12CHAIRMAN HALL:specific informatio
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Page 56 and 57: 1WITNESS McSWEENEY:1241Well, whethe
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Page 62 and 63: 124712eliminating.so, the key is, i
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13341meeting, we can never be sure
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1336123456received within the speci
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