Transcript of Hearing 12/12/97 - TWA Flight 800 Investigation

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119112“The reticulate polyurethane foam reduced theavailable fuel by about two percent and is completely3passive.After twenty years of operations at F-4’s,4567McDonnell Douglas found no deterioration of the foammaterial in the tanks. Also rthere has been nomicrobiological growth in the tanks due to the foam.”“I firmly believe that this material should8be used in all commercial aircraft.The cost is9minimal and the benefits outweigh the two percent loss10in fuel.Fuel system purging can be accomplished in11many different ways,nitrogen being the most common12131415method, but no other system is completely passive,which is still the biggest attraction of the foam.”“Additional information can be obtained onthe Air Force project from the Aeronautical Systems16Division.Write Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton,17Ohio.The contract numbers which pertain to this1819202122232425project were Air Force 33-615-54-24, Air Force 33-615-12-17, Air Force 33-615-32-77 and Air Force 33-617-38-80.”“I was project manager for this program andwould be willing to assist the implementation of thisproject.”Senator McCain sent this letter over to meand we responded to Mr. Carnivelle on July 8th, andCAPITAL HILL REPORTING, INC.(202) 466-9500
1192123which we had a discussion that I won’t go into becauseyou covered a lot of the material about the -- aboutthe use of this foam, but we did -- I did close the4letter by saying,“We appreciate your bringing this5subject to our renewed attention.Please be assured678910during our continuing investigation of the TWA Flight800 accident we will consider this issue further,including discussing with the FAA further research intothe use of reticulate polyurethane foam in fuel tanks.”That letter got my specific attention because11like Senator McCain,I am a Vietnam Era Veteran,12although I served in the Army,and I was very aware of13Senator McCain’s excellent service to our country and1415what he did,his airplane,and when somebody talked about it being inI -- that got my special attention.16171819So, maybe as we get into the rest of thepanel today we can discuss it a little more, but youthink -- the Navy did not have that in their airplanes,right?20MR. BALL:It has been my experience that the2122232425Navy did not use foam in their aircraft in SoutheastAsia primarily because they flew JP-5 which is asignificantly less volatile fuel, and therefore theydidn’t feel they had the problem that the Air Force hadwith the JP–4.CAPITAL HILL REPORTING, INC.(202) 466-9500
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1WITNESS McSWEENEY:1241Well, whethe
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124512345MR. SWAIM: Mr. McSweeney,
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124712eliminating.so, the key is, i
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12491will be at the ARAC.2so,we hav
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125112This remains an important con
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1unstable foam wandering around the
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1255123451, again, am very pleased
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12571234reduction must be in the ta
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12591aircraft or a fleet, but money
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12611234concept, and I was also ver
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126312345FURTHER DIRECT EXAMINATION
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1265123passed to an engineering soc
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12671cancellations do not affect yo
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12691The next thing, Mr. McSweeney,
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127212effort and what is referred t
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127412history that is most signific
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127612said and written about the pr
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1system was the right system to use
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12821MR. BALL:It is significantly c
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12861234567aircraft that have been
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12881MR. STREETER:In the list you s
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1290123obviously as the tank emptie
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129212We discussed a little bit on
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12961CHAIRMAN HALL: Well, thank you
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1WITNESS TYSON:I am going to try to
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13001234remediational technology in
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130212and the FAA, they are working
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130412middle of the summer and it i
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13061MR. BOUSHIE:Crane has no quest
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13101DR. ELLINGSTAD:Has any of that
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13141Mr. Thomas, is there anything
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1320123CHAIRMAN HALL: So, in other
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1322123looking at the oxidizer and
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13241234tell them over and over aga
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13301opinion.We have thoroughly enj
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13321234this opportunity to thank t
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13341meeting, we can never be sure
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1336123456received within the speci
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