Transcript of Hearing 12/12/97 - TWA Flight 800 Investigation

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12111234567several Airworthiness Directives, we have dealt withtwo possible accident scenarios in our AirworthinessDirectives . One, quite frankly, is a notice, and Irecognize that.As far as the –– dealing with the oxygen, wehave looked at and talked to people who have submittedcomments to our docket proposing everything from CO 2 to8nitrogen inerting.We have spent a lot of time talking910to those people that use nitrogen inerting. Ipersonally have talked to some McDonnell Douglas people1112on the C–17 program. So,to look at all this.we really have made an effort13Now,as far as fuel research itself, up to1415this point we have been more than happy to be just --we have been more than happy to let the NTSB lead that16effort.We know you have ongoing research. We17certainly don’t–– we certainly believe it is headed in18the right direction. So,we have not felt compelled to19do any of that research ourselves.We think that it2021would be a waste of the taxpayer’s money.That is basically it, in a nutshell.I could222324give you more time if you would wish, but that is acapsulation of it.DR. ELLINGSTAD: No, that’s fine, thank you.25CHAIRMAN HALL:Please proceed, Mr. Anderson.CAPITAL HILL REPORTING, INC.(202) 466-9500
1212123Qand Mr.BY MR. ANDERSON: (Resuming. )Mr. McSweeney, your question of the militaryLauzze is interesting, but I would like to45678point out using my frame work here that you are askinghim a question that would take place after the policydecision was made by the FAA to proceed.He could not fairly answer your questionuntil you could tell him what requirements you have set9out for the systems to meet.Is that a true statement?10A First of all, my point in making the11question --asking the question, was that even121314151617when you do have the policy, you have to engineer thesolution to every single airplane, and what isengineered into the 747 might be totally different thanwhat is engineered into any other Boeing product, notto mention the fact that Air Bus and Volker (sic) andothers might do it differently.1819so,be engineered,each and every model of airplane has toand you are correct in saying that the2021222324first step is for the FAA to establish the criteria.We have to define an objective standard to define whatlevel of flammability we would be willing to allow ornot allow in an aircraft.We would not probably, as a result of any25rule making action,mandate a particular solution.CAPITAL HILL REPORTING, INC.(202) 466-9500
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