Transcript of Hearing 12/12/97 - TWA Flight 800 Investigation

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127912345expectations .Q Thank you, Mr. McSweeney.MR. ANDERSON: Mr. Chairman, I have no morequestions.CHAIRMAN HALL: Well, I think we will move to6the party table,unless there are any of the Technical7Panel .We will give the Technical Panel a chance after89101112we go through the parties. In fairness, let’s go downto the parties.I believe we begin with Mr. Liddell, theInternational Association of Machinists and AerospaceWorkers.13MR. LIDDELL:Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I14just have a couple questions for the military15representatives .In regard to the foam use, has -- is1617there or has there been any summary or records made ofmaintenance problems with the use of foam?1819MR. LAUZZE:detailed history of it,I am not personally aware of anybut we could look into it.20But,I am not aware of one.21MR. BALL:That is really out of our realm.22These gentlemen are testers and I am an educator, and I23have heard comments,as we heard yesterday, that it is2425removed for maintenance problems.If I were a pilot and I was going to go intoCAPITAL HILL REPORTING, INC.(202) 466-9500
12801combat and heard the maintenance offer removed my foam2before I flew in there,I might be a bit upset about34567it. So, I think you have to look at the maintenanceversus the survivability issue from our perspective.But, it really is –– it is not something that we arefamiliar with.MR. LIDDELL: Also rare you familiar with8what type of fuel tanks this foam is used in?Is it in9a bladder tank,or is it just a fuel tank?10MR. BALL:Most of the foam is in the wing.1112Most of the foam applications are in the wing tanks.There are some applications in the fuselage. The F-151314is in the fuselage,a bladder.and I believe the F–15 fuselage has15But,generally speaking, the foam is most16applicable to us in the wing tanks because that is a17large, exposed area.That’s a (inaudible) mentioned181920yesterday, and those wings take a lot of hits.Also rthose wings -- that wing field is,generally speaking, used first. So, that is our most21vulnerable area.That also gives us a minimum fuel2223penalty because we don’t carry that much fuel in thewing.24MR. LIDDELL:Thank you very much. No25further questions, Mr. Chairman.CAPITAL HILL REPORTING, INC.(202) 466-9500
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1186BEFORE THENATIONAL TRANSPORTATI
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119112“The reticulate polyurethan
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1193123The Air Force developed this
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1195123QBY MR. ANDERSON:DIRECT EXAM
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1197123decision, and the decision w
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12051and then we will charter ARAC,
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12151opinion.2WITNESS McSWEENEY:I w
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12231reasons,like airline dispatch
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12251 MR. ANDERSON: I would like to
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1looking at inerting,1227looking at
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Page 62 and 63: 124712eliminating.so, the key is, i
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13301opinion.We have thoroughly enj
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13341meeting, we can never be sure
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