Transcript of Hearing 12/12/97 - TWA Flight 800 Investigation

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12571234reduction must be in the tank and then move on fromthere.Q I understand. As a charter member of thegroup that will be attempting to produce5recommendations,are you comfortable that the obvious67891011121314bias that is a natural part of diverse group of partiescoming together to do a technical job is going to beheld in abeyance while this important work continues?What I mean by that is, I detect a strongbias against certain technology, and I understand thatprobably part of that is because of the daunting costsor the unknowns, but how does one, when you aredrafting policy, not be thinking about these? Howwould you imagine that would be put aside?15AI think that is an interesting question. I161718think you are referring specifically towards the ARACprocess, or something of that nature?Q At least the ARAC process. I know there is19many more processes,including, you know, public20discussion and the forums.21AI think to begin with it -- we have to22232425remember that we have got a very, very majordevastating accident at hand here which, frankly, in myexperience with the ARAC process, we are not alwaysequipped with that close and meaningful a purpose.CAPITAL HILL REPORTING, INC.(202) 466-9500
1Secondly,1258there has been quite an educational2process going on in the industry, beginning with the3flammability conference,and certainly with this4hearing, which has been very,very informative for me.567I think as we develop that information, the better wedevelop it when we go into the ARAC process, it clearsaway a lot of those obstacles.8Finally,the FAA has taken the initiative to91011put at least that process on a six month time line,which is something they haven’t done before, and I havebeen involved in the ARAC process for several years, as12you may be aware,with in flight icing, and have131415161718experienced the frustrations of that.I think this is maybe a little bit of adifferent approach that they are taking now.Q Thank you. I just have one final question,and it has to do with testing. What is needed? Whatis the key part in a lot of what you express are19concerns?Is it the reliability of the system, that it20212223is properly designed and it does not contain inherentfailure modes?That is one thing that was brought out Ithink yesterday, but perhaps not emphasized in this24context,and that is that a system once proposed and25even shown to function is not ready to be put on anCAPITAL HILL REPORTING, INC.(202) 466-9500
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1186BEFORE THENATIONAL TRANSPORTATI
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