Emerging Viruses-Aids & Ebola - By Leanard ... - preterhuman.net

ROBERT: They're in the references [we published]. [26] They'realso in the Federal Register. . . .So we think that they went over there and tested it. . . . Thensomebody put it back into us or simply used it in us.[Again, I thought, it makes more sense to place the source of theexperimental AIDS viruses in Bethesda and not Russia given thatthe WHO had made the NCI, and not a Russian institution, theinitial distributor of viral testing reagents [27-29] And since theinitial homosexual outbreak of AIDS was in New York,Szmuness and his New York colleagues along with Merckresearchers seemed to be the prime suspects. Then I wonderedwhether there were any documented links between Gallo's groupand Szmuness?]Manufacturing AIDS‐Like VirusesLEN: OK. Now let's get a little bit more specific about the virusitself. With regard to the AIDS virus, had it been specificallymanufactured, what might have been the first steps? What do youthink the researchers began with?ROBERT: I think they began with bovine visna virus, which theyknew was a T-cell destroyer. And they made that by crossingbovine and visna [viruses] in cattle. . . .Visna is the virus in sheep. Its characteristic is a destroyer, andthey wanted a T-cell destroyer. So they took a T-cell attacker-thebovine leukemia virus and crossed it with a visna to make a T-cell destroyer, which is exactly what they got. But then all theyhad was a T-cell destroyer in cattle which wasn't very good forhumans. So then they grew it in human tissue, and when you dothat it adapts to human beings (see fig. 7.1). And there are a hostof ways to get these things to grow in tissue even if the receptorswon't take [the virus]. . . .LEN: They could have delivered the viral RNA a number ofways.ROBERT: Yes. One of the ways is by pseudovirus formation. . ..Pseudovirus formation is where you put in a simultaneousmixture of cells and viruses, and what happens is, for instance, ifyou put bovine and visna viruses in with herpes virus; in thepackaging process, you'll get BVV genome inside a herpes coatand visa versa.So then you separate out all the herpes ones, and it just infectsany cells which are sensitive to herpes. And you can artificiallyintroduce BVV into a herpes-sensitive cell, because it has BVVon the inside and herpes on the outside.LEN: I remember reading through studies about that technique