Discourses of Rumi

discourse 64Every science learned in this world through studyand experiment is the science of bodies. The scienceacquired by crossing the portal of death isthe science of Soul. Knowing about the science of“I am God” is the science of bodies, but tobecome “I am God” is the science of Soul. To seethe light of the lamp and the fire is the science ofbodies, to burn in that fire and lamp’s flame is thescience of Soul. Everything experienced is the scienceof Soul, everything based upon knowledge isthe science of bodies.You could also say that the only truth is seeingand vision—all else is the science of fantasy. Forexample, an architect thinks through and imaginesthe building of a school. No matter how correctand accurate the architect’s thoughts, still it isfantasy. It becomes reality only after buildersactually raise and construct the school.Now, there are differences between fantasy andfantasy. The fantasy of Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman